Topic: Assault Rifles for Everyone! (Read 5329 times)

Rico · « **on:** September 14, 2004, 10:02:29 AM »

Well, the topic of Gun Control is hot in the media again these days. What do you think?

Seems like our president is bowing to pressure put on him by the NRA and refusing to apply the innitiative needed to maintain our current level of control on the market. The right to have your own arms is a guaranteed right, but it doesn't really say what type of arms you are allowed.

My personal opinion on that is that if it's taken in the spirit that it was intended, that means NO restricting of weapons, at least not for anyone who has not been convicted of a crime. Our Founding Fathers had just fought for their freedom, and had come from a society where in the past, the common people had not been allowed to own weapons for fear of insurection. Knowing that a government founded by the people should exist only by the sufferance of said people, they felt that allowing everyone to have their own weapons would deter a goverment that would suppress the liberties which were being granted. Unless you warp the facts, I'd say it's pretty clear what they had intended.

Then again, no one really has any use for assault weapons. By requiring that owners apply and be certified to own one, you're not really keeping them from it. You're just ensuring that those who have them, for the most part, are not a threat to other people who don't. Many States have a Conceal-Carry permit that can be obtained, and it seems like that hasn't really hurt anyone. Plus, so long as the fees don't get silly, it's a good way to raise money for wildlife conservation and law enforcement.

I'm not really opposed to some gun control, just as long as it doesn't go overboard. I can easily see both sides of the arguement, though.

Anonymous · « **Reply #1 on:** September 14, 2004, 10:04:00 AM »

We've been talking about it a lot here. I don't really want to retype everything! lol

xolik · « **Reply #2 on:** September 14, 2004, 10:24:35 AM »

.50 Caliburs were just banned here in CA.

avalanche · « **Reply #3 on:** September 14, 2004, 10:36:31 AM »

So was rape of a corpse. California is so ahead-of-the-curve.

Gillivray · « **Reply #4 on:** September 14, 2004, 10:38:02 AM »

"I got mine, Vanilla with a nine". Man I suck at rap. LOL

Crystalmonkey · « **Reply #5 on:** September 14, 2004, 04:06:04 PM »

Banned here in MA even if federal says otherwise, they are like that =(

reimero · « **Reply #6 on:** September 14, 2004, 04:07:43 PM »

I want legalized shoulder-fired rocket launchers.

Crystalmonkey · « **Reply #7 on:** September 14, 2004, 04:12:06 PM »

I want to make stupidity illegal

avalanche · « **Reply #8 on:** September 14, 2004, 04:16:35 PM »

Quote from: Crystalmonkey

I want to make stupidity illegal

This just in:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040910/ap_on_el_pr/Crystalmonkey_outlawed=1

hackess · « **Reply #9 on:** September 14, 2004, 04:17:47 PM »

Quote from: avalanche

Quote from: Crystalmonkey
I want to make stupidity illegal
This just in:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040910/ap_on_el_pr/Crystalmonkey_outlawed=1

I was biting my tongue. Thanks for being the mean one, avalanche.

reimero · « **Reply #10 on:** September 14, 2004, 04:18:09 PM »

Quote from: avalanche

Quote from: Crystalmonkey
I want to make stupidity illegal
This just in:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040910/ap_on_el_pr/Crystalmonkey_outlawed=1

Truly classic!

avalanche · « **Reply #11 on:** September 14, 2004, 04:19:00 PM »

Quote from: catwritr

Quote from: avalanche
Quote from: Crystalmonkey
I want to make stupidity illegal
This just in:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040910/ap_on_el_pr/Crystalmonkey_outlawed=1

I was biting my tongue. Thanks for being the mean one, avalanche.

I do what I can.

Gillivray · « **Reply #12 on:** September 14, 2004, 08:09:55 PM »

I don't see how banning assault rifles would curb the crime problem. They can still get them on the black market. And besides that, there are 101 different ways to kill someone without using an assualt rifle.

If their gonna ban anything, they should ban bell peppers. Damn those things are nasty. heh

Gillivray · « **Reply #13 on:** September 14, 2004, 08:11:51 PM »

Quote from: reimero

I want legalized shoulder-fired rocket launchers.

Try deer hunting with those. LOL

Law · « **Reply #14 on:** September 14, 2004, 10:06:05 PM »

Quote from: Crystalmonkey

Banned here in MA even if federal says otherwise, they are like that =(

Why do you want one?

Crystalmonkey · « **Reply #15 on:** September 14, 2004, 10:10:06 PM »

All I will say in response to the allegations posted by Avalanche:

As for the gun ban, it doesn't seem like it was working anyway. Not for the same reasons as Prohibition failed, as while you can of course get guns black market, the success of the ban is indicated by reducing the crimes related to the gun. Kind of like judging how well a drug (side effects exluded) is against a disease, because even if somebody carries the disease, if the drug prevents them from showing symptoms and/or related health problems, it is a "success."

This site (which may be a bit biased in it's views) tries to use data gathered from federal agencies to point out how the ban, and gun bans in general, havn't helped with the murder rate.
http://www.clintongunban.com

xolik · « **Reply #16 on:** September 15, 2004, 12:19:10 AM »

Quote from: avalanche

So was rape of a corpse.

Looks like I'll be free this Saturday night after all.

MISTER MASSACRE · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2004, 08:29:23 PM »

Ha ha, crazy California! Corpses can't say no.

Dan · « **Reply #18 on:** September 17, 2004, 06:22:40 PM »

Who said corpses can't say no. On the gun topic, it's not like banning them will cause any less deaths any ways. I mean, half the gun deaths in America while assualt weapons were illegal were from assualt weapons, so banning them will do nothing.

Crystalmonkey · « **Reply #19 on:** September 17, 2004, 07:43:02 PM »

If I wrote in my will that I would like my corpse to be raped, does that count as consent?

Law · « **Reply #20 on:** September 17, 2004, 08:00:24 PM »

Quote from: Dan

Who said corpses can't say no.

Speaking from experience?

Dan · « **Reply #21 on:** September 18, 2004, 08:22:11 AM »

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