Topic: What planet is THIS guy on? (Read 5955 times)

Demosthenes · « **on:** July 21, 2004, 07:56:21 AM »

Oh my.

Link

I ran across a link to this via a Yahoo message group -- I don't normally read anything from this site.

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There is a lesson to learn in all of this. The Civil Libertarians are a relic of a time that has long since past. They, in the name of freedom and commerce, continually stand in the way of much-needed measures that aim to insure that every American has the opportunity to live free lives and pursue commerce.

So only by giving up our freedom can we live free?

HUURRRRRRR??

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If the United States Congress were serious about protecting this country, it would explore:
A National Identification Card
A Domestic Intelligence Service
Greater video surveillance at major cities and airports
Greater monitoring of international communication done by online methods like e-mail
The monitoring of all news services, news websites, and movies for messages and biases that encourage sympathy with terrorists or terrorist sympathizers.[/list:u]

(emphasis added)

I'm totally perplexed at how anyone can want to live in a totalitarian police state.

This guy's either a troll, or he's somehow mentally defective. Seriously. I don't say that just because I don't agree with him, but because he doesn't make logical sense.

Can someone explain this to me?

Anonymous · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2004, 08:37:43 AM »

Roger Houston. That's a definite HUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRR!!11

reimero · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2004, 08:50:52 AM »

You can't have great personal freedom and have a truly secure state. The only way to ensure the absolute security of citizens is to establish a police state. But police states fly in the face of what this country is all about.

People who want to slap restrictions on expression and do away with privacy laws mostly intend to keep the country safe and secure, while ignoring the fact that this country was founded PRECISELY to AVOID this sort of thing. Personally, I feel that they who would strip our freedoms in order to secure the country against terrorism are those who have sold out to the terrorists. By allowing our way of life to be altered by these terrorists, we've conceded defeat.

xolik · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2004, 10:18:56 AM »

I'd live in a totalitarian police state, but only if I were in charge.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2004, 11:44:53 AM »

Quote from: xolik

I'd live in a totalitarian police state, but only if I were in charge.

I don't think I'd even want that, because there would always be those out to asassinate me. Even a totalitarian police state can't guarantee security for the individual because individuals still have some form of personal free will and can harm other individuals. Plus in this environment others can use the police state against their enemies by falsely accusing them of crimes, much like the TIPS line that Asscraft proposed.

I prefer our constitutional system, unfortunately our current regime is pissing on it.

xolik · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2004, 01:51:15 PM »

Don't make my secret police drag you off in the middle of the night!

Yeah, people would be wanting to assassinate me, I'm sure, but what's the fun in living without the constant threat of death hanging overhead?

pbsaurus · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2004, 02:08:41 PM »

Quote from: xolik

Don't make my secret police drag...

You're secret police would be in drag?

Speaking of drag, I'm going to the city on Friday to meet Jane Russel and see a drag tribute followed by a screening of Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. Should be a blast!

Demosthenes · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2004, 02:18:02 PM »

I doubt they'd be very secret for long if they were....

MISTER MASSACRE · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2004, 02:33:21 PM »

I'm pretty sure that guy is a troll. There's no way he can overlook the basic contradiction of his argument.

Right?

right?

NGL · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2004, 10:04:54 AM »

I don't see what the problem is. The simple fact is America has lost its way. We've stepped away from the Christian ideals that this country was founded on, and we've lost sight of our true purpose with all this "civil liberties" claptrap. The founders of this great nation would have unanimously and whole-heartedly endorse restrictions of our civil liberties for the sake of preserving our freedom.

There needs to be a national news source that tells all the networks what stories to run. Questioning policy, pointing out shortcomings, and speaking out against the leaders of our country do nothing more than weaken this great nation. It causes a decrease in our troops' morale, and it causes us to question the integrity of our commander-in-chief. That, in turn, weakens the entire nation. What we really need to do is put our faith in Jesus and our trust in Bush, and stand behind him unquestioningly. He is, after all, the most qualified man for the job. People who are opposed to any of this are traitors to the United States and should be treated as such.

I am, of course, being sarcastic.

Nowledge · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2004, 10:08:53 AM »

Quote from: NGL

I don't see what the problem is. The simple fact is America has lost its way. We've stepped away from the Christian ideals that this country was founded on, and we've lost sight of our true purpose with all this "civil liberties" claptrap. The founders of this great nation would have unanimously and whole-heartedly endorse restrictions of our civil liberties for the sake of preserving our freedom.

There needs to be a national news source that tells all the networks what stories to run. Questioning policy, pointing out shortcomings, and speaking out against the leaders of our country do nothing more than weaken this great nation. It causes a decrease in our troops' morale, and it causes us to question the integrity of our commander-in-chief. That, in turn, weakens the entire nation. What we really need to do is put our faith in Jesus and our trust in Bush, and stand behind him unquestioningly. He is, after all, the most qualified man for the job. People who are opposed to any of this are traitors to the United States and should be treated as such.

I am, of course, being sarcastic.

Dude, that went on way too long before the sarcasm was anounced
We should implement rules on sarcasm = [ ] Sarcasm Check Box

hackess · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2004, 10:12:48 AM »

I agree. I was about ready to stake you, NGL.

NGL · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2004, 10:28:16 AM »

I'm just posting what I see on the news and read on the web. It hurts my brain to even consider that people actually think that way and endorse the you either love and support the president, or you hate America and our troops mindset. But then, everything on the internet is true.

hackess · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2004, 10:33:01 AM »

Only if it's in bold.

Min · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2004, 10:42:05 AM »

Yup. And everyone on the internet is good looking too!

Nowledge · « **Reply #15 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:09:28 AM »

Quote from: Detta

Yup. And everyone on the internet is good looking too!

And Beef is whats for dinner

::Crosses fingers::

xolik · « **Reply #16 on:** July 22, 2004, 12:14:40 PM »

For a moment, I thought my parents registered an account here.

Demosthenes · « **Reply #17 on:** July 22, 2004, 12:38:22 PM »

Quote from: catwritr

Only if it's in bold.

If it's bold, and on the internet, and posted by Cat, it MUST be true.

TRUE!!!

The_FOO · « **Reply #18 on:** July 22, 2004, 09:31:49 PM »

Quote from: Detta

Yup. And everyone on the internet is good looking too!

WOO HOO! I'm a hottie!

Anonymous · « **Reply #19 on:** July 23, 2004, 06:44:24 AM »

Look at mah bellay!

The_FOO · « **Reply #20 on:** July 24, 2004, 11:15:52 PM »

Quote from: TheJudge

Look at mah bellay!

My belly got shot with paint balls today. OUCH!

phyre · « **Reply #21 on:** July 25, 2004, 12:32:33 AM »

Padding, dude. Gotta pad up for that stuff.

The_FOO · « **Reply #22 on:** July 25, 2004, 10:23:27 AM »

Quote from: phyre

Padding, dude. Gotta pad up for that stuff.

Oh, I started the day wearing sweat pants and shirt, but half way through I decided screw it and stripped that off and wore my tshirt and shorts cause of the heat + humidity.

Last time I played I had 13 welts in various places, this time I only have four. Either I got better, or lack of protection caused me to be more careful.

Demosthenes · « **Reply #23 on:** July 26, 2004, 04:50:34 PM »

I think maybe he meant you should eat more.

The_FOO · « **Reply #24 on:** July 27, 2004, 09:15:54 AM »

Quote from: Demosthenes

I think maybe he meant you should eat more.

I'm already popping buttons on my pants. How much more am I supposed to eat?

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