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Main Forums => Political Opinions => Topic started by: reimero on August 07, 2008, 02:08:27 PM
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Rant time...
I am sofa king sick of hearing about Obama. Seriously. You'd think he had won the Nobel Prizes for Peace, Literature and Chemistry, paid off the national debt, cures cancer just by thinking about you and is a one-man carbon vacuum. At least, that's how it comes across on the news and on digg and slashdot. And the lady whose cubicle is across the aisle from me.
I get that it's okay to be excited about a candidate, especially one whose name doesn't rhyme with "George Bush." But this has gone well beyond candidacy support and into that same category of songs you really fucking hate because while they might be decent songs, they're so constantly overplayed everywhere all the time, you just can't get a break from them.
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How dare you disrespect the hallowed name of the Ebony Messiah, you racist fuck. :x
On a more serious note: This topic combined with your avatar = pretty damn funny.
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McCain was right when he said that the media is completely focused on Obama as opposed to him.
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McCain was right when he said that the media is completely focused on Obama as opposed to him.
It's almost as if there is some kind of bias in favour of the Democrats, but we all know that's bullshit.
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It seems to me that the "If you do this then you are cool" pointer moved from hating Bush to liking Obama. Not to say no one hates Bush anymore, of course.
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This isn't a contest to see who has the best ideas on how to run the country. Not at all. What we have here is Presidential Idol.
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This isn't a contest to see who has the best ideas on how to run the country. Not at all. What we have here is Presidential Idol.
So your saying that this has the potential to be the most successful voting turn out in the last 16 years?
Fuck I hate Idol.
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I don't think McCain's ad was too far off. There are people out there that are caught up in this as if he were a mere celebrity. There's way more on the line than what he'll be wearing tomorrow.
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This isn't a contest to see who has the best ideas on how to run the country. Not at all. What we have here is Presidential Idol.
Once again, Xolly wins the intarwebs.
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Oba-mi Ob-am-a, Life goes on, bra!
La la how the life goes on.
Barack has the flag "stored" in the fireplace
Michelle tries to fist-bump with her man
Pelosi stays at home and does his pretty face
And Harry Reid tries to act just like a man.
Oba-mi Ob-am-a, Life goes on, bra!
La la how the life goes on.
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I think it's safe to say that you won't be hearing about Obama for a few days...looks like Edwards will now be sucking up the news cycles for a bit.
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Yeah, and then watch the Clintons step into the light.
Re-create 68!
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Well we shouldn't be hearing about Obama for a while considering he's on a week long vacation in Hawaii.
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Well we shouldn't be hearing about Obama for a while considering he's on a week long vacation in Hawaii.
Actually, this is the exact reason why we will be hearing about Obama. Even if there wasn't a scandal, they'll make it one to go on vacation right before an election. Unless of course, McCain drops his pants in front of a bunch of cameras.
*twitch*
God, I hope that doesn't happen.
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Well we shouldn't be hearing about Obama for a while considering he's on a week long vacation in Hawaii.
"We now go live to Hawaii where Preside, er I mean, Senator Obama was last seen walking on the water!"
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Really give the guy a break, he's going on vacation spending time with his family, he's campaigning for president and will probably be overrun with people wanting autographs when in Hawaii. All this while McCain cries behind his desk :|
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Really give the guy a break
Yeah, poor ol'Barrack has just had it SO ROUGH. Cry me a fucking river.
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Who is this Obama of whom you speak?
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Who is this Obama of whom you speak?
Not sure; I believe he keeps changing.
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wahWahwah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O4IfqKTzOM)
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He ventured forth to bring light to the world!
The anointed one's pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in action - and a blessing to all his faithful followers...
And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.
The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd weed and a little blow.
When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders. And the Elders were astonished at what they heard and said among themselves: ?Verily, who is this Child that he opens our hearts and minds to the audacity of hope??
In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites.
He travelled fleet of foot and light of camel, with a small retinue that consisted only of his loyal disciples from the tribe of the Media. He ventured first to the land of the Hindu Kush, where the
Taleban had harboured the viper of al-Qaeda in their bosom, raining terror on all the world.
And the Child spake and the tribes of Nato immediately loosed the Caveats that had previously bound them. And in the great battle that ensued the forces of the light were triumphant. For as long as the Child stood with his arms raised aloft, the enemy suffered great blows and the threat of terror was no more.
From there he went forth to Mesopotamia where he was received by the great ruler al-Maliki, and al-Maliki spake unto him and blessed his Sixteen Month Troop Withdrawal Plan even as the imperial warrior Petraeus tried to destroy it.
And lo, in Mesopotamia, a miracle occurred. Even though the Great Surge of Armour that the evil Bush had ordered had been a terrible mistake, a waste of vital military resources and doomed to end in disaster, the Child's very presence suddenly brought forth a great victory for the forces of the light.
And the Persians, who saw all this and were greatly fearful, longed to speak with the Child and saw that the Child was the bringer of peace. At the mention of his name they quickly laid aside their intrigues and beat their uranium swords into civil nuclear energy ploughshares.
From there the Child went up to the city of Jerusalem, and entered through the gate seated on an ***. The crowds of network anchors who had followed him from afar cheered ?Hosanna? and waved great palm fronds and strewed them at his feet.
In Jerusalem and in surrounding Palestine, the Child spake to the Hebrews and the Arabs, as the Scripture had foretold. And in an instant, the lion lay down with the lamb, and the Israelites and Ishmaelites ended their long enmity and lived for ever after in peace.
As word spread throughout the land about the Child's wondrous works, peoples from all over flocked to hear him; Hittites and Abbasids; Obamacons and McCainiacs; Cameroonians and Blairites.
And they told of strange and wondrous things that greeted the news of the Child's journey. Around the world, global temperatures began to decline, and the ocean levels fell and the great warming was over.
The Great Prophet Algore of Nobel and Oscar, who many had believed was the anointed one, smiled and told his followers that the Child was the one generations had been waiting for.
And there were other wonderful signs. In the city of the Street at the Wall, spreads on interbank interest rates dropped like manna from Heaven and rates on credit default swaps fell to the ground as dead birds from the almond tree, and the people who had lived in foreclosure were able to borrow again.
Black gold gushed from the ground at prices well below $140 per barrel. In hospitals across the land the sick were cured even though they were uninsured. And all because the Child had pronounced it.
And this is the testimony of one who speaks the truth and bears witness to the truth so that you might believe. And he knows it is the truth for he saw it all on CNN and the BBC and in the pages of The New York Times.
Then the Child ventured forth from Israel and Palestine and stepped onto the shores of the Old Continent. In the land of Queen Angela of Merkel, vast multitudes gathered to hear his voice, and he preached to them at length.
But when he had finished speaking his disciples told him the crowd was hungry, for they had had nothing to eat all the hours they had waited for him.
And so the Child told his disciples to fetch some food but all they had was five loaves and a couple of frankfurters. So he took the bread and the frankfurters and blessed them and told his disciples to feed the multitudes. And when all had eaten their fill, the scraps filled twelve baskets.
Thence he travelled west to Mount Sarkozy. Even the beauteous Princess Carla of the tribe of the Bruni was struck by awe and she was great in love with the Child, but he was tempted not.
On the Seventh Day he walked across the Channel of the Angles to the ancient land of the hooligans. There he was welcomed with open arms by the once great prophet Blair and his successor, Gordon the Leper, and his successor, David the Golden One.
And suddenly, with the men appeared the archangel Gabriel and the whole host of the heavenly choir, ranks of cherubim and seraphim, all praising God and singing: ?Yes, We Can.?
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I wonder how many people will actually try to accomplish something on election day and take the bus to the polls to vote for obama and then get irate and start shouting jibberish when they are informed they had to have registered first.
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I wonder how many people will actually try to accomplish something on election day and take the bus to the polls to vote for obama and then get irate and start shouting jibberish when they are informed they had to have registered first.
Wow, I totally forgot to register after I moved. Thanks for reminding me xolik!
<==Dumbass.
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I'm just a civic-minded kinda guy.
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"Obama is the candidate of compassion, understanding, ho....HAHAHAH THAT CUNT HAS A RETARDED BABY LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"
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"Obama is the candidate of compassion, understanding, ho....HAHAHAH THAT CUNT HAS A RETARDED BABY LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"
The latent misogyny of the left, rearing its disgusting head again. The Daily Kos should be nuked from orbit.
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The latent misogyny of the left, rearing its disgusting head again. The Daily Kos should be nuked from orbit.
To be fair, I don't pay Daily Kos or Free Republic any attention. I wish they'd just make out already and get it over with.
DK - "YOU FASCIST NAZIS"
FREEP - "YOU STALINIST PIGS"
*cue porno music*
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A primary reason that Obama's name is being overly popularized is because it's the most effective way to win votes from the American public in this day and age. In a country raped by a capitalist consumer agenda and filled to the brim with infantilized adults [today's voters], the politician's best bet is to portray himself as a product.
Personally I've read hearings from prior to 9/11 at which Obama spoke. He was eloquent, adamant, and passionate about focusing the political attention and power on problems in American households, streets, cities, governing bodies. He spoke of the ill and healthcare, he discouraged errant agendas. Obama politely pointed out that certain battles between different branches of the government over small inconveniences were regrettably outweighing more important matters. Matters such as the expanding differences in class, the inevitable recession that would result of the economically uneven circulation of currency, and more.
For the first time in a very long time a man has come along that wants to improve America for America. However from what I have seen today... the color of his skin, the lack of political experience, and the pure ignorance of the average American may prevent him from entering or completing a single term of presidency. I can only hope this is not the case.
-Locke
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Wow. Pass the Kool Aid, please.
Why is it that if I'm not going to vote for Obama, it must be because of the color of his skin and not because he's the MOST liberal member of the US Senate in history.
I want less government, not more. I'm certainly not going to vote for someone who promises to take over 1/7th of the US economy (Health care).
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Wow. Pass the Kool Aid, please.
Why is it that if I'm not going to vote for Obama, it must be because of the color of his skin and not because he's the MOST liberal member of the US Senate in history.
I want less government, not more. I'm certainly not going to vote for someone who promises to take over 1/7th of the US economy (Health care).
If that post was directed toward me:
I was not implying that all those voting against Obama are doing so due to his flesh. There are a multitude of reasons people aren't voting for Obama.
I choose to judge the potential of a leader by his passion, opinions, intent, and how relative those opinions or their intent are to my own. I'm sure you base your evaluation of candidates in a similar fashion.
However the same cannot be said of everyone. Sometimes a name is all it takes.
If not:
Disregard the above.
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There are a multitude of reasons people aren't voting for Obama.
Yes, so many reasons. One of the reasons I'm not voting for him is because I don't like socialism. Being raped by the capitalist agenda sounds way better than anything the socialist agenda wants to do to me.
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I choose to judge the potential of a leader by his passion, opinions, intent...
Oh. You would love the mayor of Toledo, or Detroit, then.
Detroit's mayor is so passionate about his city that the just admitted to a felony, accepted 120 days in prison and gave up his law license because he was so passionate about his city. He intended to continue to lie in court until that pesky governor got involved.
Now, for Toledo's mayor... Oh hell, there's not enough energy in my soul to tell you all of the gaffs of this wonderful mayor but let me assure you that he's passionate about his opinions and his intent is to make Toledo a great city. He just has no clue how to do it.
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There are a multitude of reasons people aren't voting for Obama.
One them is that some people vote for leaders based on their ability to lead not just inspire. As inspiring as Obama's been, I can't find a single instance of him leading. And yes, they are two different things.
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For the first time in a very long time a man has come along that wants to improve America for America.
Not everyone thinks America needs improving. And among those that do, there is little agreement on what should be done. The two logical traps that lefties fall into, over and over, is the assumption that what they see as America's problems are self-evident, and that the only reason America's problems persist is a lack of political will to solve them. The first trap leads them to demonize anyone who does not agree with them, and the second leads them to demonize whoever happens to be in charge.
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Our elected officials don't work. They go on vacations and campaign. I will vote for someone other than O'Cain or McBama.
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You're not far off, really, but you could state it several different ways.
"Stop the pointless war" could be said as "accept defeat".
"Do exactly what Bush says but to the extreme" could be said as "Continue to secure freedom and democracy in the Middle East."
Semantics. Point of view. Promises. Lies.
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"Stop the pointless war" could be said as "accept defeat".
Sí se puede!
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I am willing to admit that Mr. Obama's political endeavors will certainly enact change, some of it revolutionary and benevolent, some of it misguided and overzealous. I am also willing to admit that Mr. Obama would be a success in many arenas of foreign relations, being charismatic and able to identify with many of the conditions that exist outside of the United States. I admit these things because they are true.
However, Mr. Obama has no experience in the fields of leadership and administration. This may seem prejudiced toward the inexperienced, a catch-22 against those who would threaten the established power order in Washington. This is not the case. The office of the President of the United States is not one to be granted to a candidate lacking experience. On-the-job training is simply not an option when the most powerful country on Earth is at your disposal, to make or break in an instant.
Many claim Sarah palin is under-qualified to serve as Vice President (or, perhaps, president, given Mr. McCain's advanced years) because she is merely the governor of an under-populated state with few social issues. The fact is, Alaska maintains relations with two foreign countries and manages vast economic resources, many of which are intimately tied to the energy crisis. Ms. Palin has unique qualifications that are being widely overlooked, and Mr. Obama cannot even claim to have as much experience as she.
In short, I believe our country's security and stability would be mismanaged by Mr. Obama, despite his intermittent advantages.
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So, you're voting for Bob Barr, too, eh?
edit: assumes citizenship and age.
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I might vote for Mr. Barr for antic reasons. I am, after all, registered LP.
In any case, I can't bring myself to vote for either of the two dominant tickets.
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... The office of the President of the United States is not one to be granted to a candidate lacking experience. On-the-job training is simply not an option when the most powerful country on Earth is at your disposal, to make or break in an instant. ...
We've certainly had 8 years of that experience. It's like Harpo Marx and the three stooges have had their way twice and even brought in the keystone cops to help trash the joint. What a mess.
... Many claim Sarah palin is under-qualified to serve as Vice President (or, perhaps, president, given Mr. McCain's advanced years) because she is merely the governor of an under-populated state with few social issues. ...
I'm sure some folks may be looking at it like that but I haven't heard it put quite that way. Most I've heard so far as being the popularly held belief in proof of her inexperience was more along the lines of her having had such a very short time as anything beyond civil manager of a one-horse town. That, and several points of n00bish blunders she's made in the few political positions that she has held.
... The fact is, Alaska maintains relations with two foreign countries and manages vast economic resources, many of which are intimately tied to the energy crisis. Ms. Palin has unique qualifications that are being widely overlooked, ...
What relations? Are you seriously suggesting that because of Alaska's proximity to Canada and Russia that Palin has dealt with either on an international relationship level? On that note, there are several states that share a border with Canada or Mexico, does that make their Governors equally qualified?
Also, I'm not sure that she has had an active hand on any of the "vast resources" as their management is pretty much turnkey affairs ran by well established agencies within the state with a heavy federal presence for the ongoing operations. I'm still waiting to hear a convincing sell of her "unique qualifications".
... Mr. Obama cannot even claim to have as much experience as she. ...
I believe they are not too far from each other as far as "time in public service" goes, however Obama's time at least includes some apprenticeship at a federal level. And I 'm sure he knows what the vice presidents job involves.
... I am also willing to admit that Mr. Obama would be a success in many arenas of foreign relations, being charismatic and able to identify with many of the conditions that exist outside of the United States. ...
... I believe our country's security and stability would be mismanaged by Mr. Obama, despite his intermittent advantages. ...
I believe our country's security and stability will be mismanaged by any of the current major players. I think I'd find slight comfort though in Barak's apparent diplomatic demeanor should he get the job.
Where for art thou, Ron Paul.
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Where for art thou, Ron Paul.
If you meant it like 'wherefore art thou, Ron Paul', that's what his parents named him.
If you meant it like 'where are you, Ron Paul', then jerking it furiously over the price of gold going up.
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If you meant it like 'wherefore art thou, Ron Paul', that's what his parents named him.
He's old enough for that to be the kind of language they used while naming him.
"And what shall I name thee, fruit o' my loins? Angels, sparkling golden luminescent, spake unto me from their gilt clouds: thine name shall be Ron Paul."
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hmmm, I figures I'd screw it up.
Where for art thou, Ron Paul?
I don't need to know what you are doing, just get your ass back in there, go independent.
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He's old enough for that to be the kind of language they used while naming him.
"And what shall I name thee, fruit o' my loins? Angels, sparkling PURESTRAIN golden luminescent, spake unto me from their gilt clouds: thine name shall be Ron Paul."
You left out that part.
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With that fascist theocratic repub Barr running as a libertarian, that's taken away from me now. Perhaps Nader will get my vote, or perhaps the Green. I haven't even researched who else is running yet. I'd like Bloomberg to go independent and get on all the ballots or at least register as a write in for all the ballots. He would have the resources to buck the system. (yep, last go-around I discovered that for you to count as a write in candidate you have to register as such in each state)
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*PURESTRAIN* (You left out that part).
Granted, Ron has some *out there* ideas IMO, but at least he has actual ideas - many of which sound good to me and he does not hesitate to jump right in and 'splain'em, at least the cliff note version(s). Too many politicians blahblahblah about what needs to be addressed without so much as a clue to how they plan to go about it.
One of Ron's outspoken positions is that he is fully aware that the prez cannot just foist his will upon the people without breaking the law and he's against special interest favour.
He's absolute about following what is 'legal' and what the majority want using leadership and influence to initiate new/modified policies that benefit the greatest number of us.
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COCKS LOL
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http://skoften.net/index/video/hillbillies_gaan_stemmen
Good Luck !
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I see you've discovered our Secret Biological Contaminant Weapon. Good job! It's too late, tho; we've already loosed those particular specimens upon the World.
Hey- do us a favour would ya? Keep an eye on those three; they'll be wanting to smoke up at the coffee houses, and forget where they were supposed to go.
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If there ever could be an example in supporting a plausible argument for denying marriage rights to a particular group, There it is.
Of course, it wouldn't have much impact without a comprehensive spay and neuter program.
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Idiot Americans. The stereotype proves.
I thought just as that she will say: Give us a BRAIN.
Hehe, there they have certainly know more to than `brake'
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She has of it, however, intelligence because he is called this way real, perhaps neefje of sadam.
Since these debielen are in the majority, the therefore ordinary McCain become…
inbreeding monster. now she has used minutes therefore almost 4 long 1 argument to make its point
on end red, white and blue yes that is the order of the Dutch flag: P
By the army of the geils afgestote crekhoer.
Tuurlijk be in the majority these types. Rats do tensloote also nothing else shit then gimlets and
Fail
is also logical if you consider that Americans a couple serial violators that from Europe is initially has escaped
Epic
Why nou the complete time the Hitlergroet of that guy left?
Nevertheless would laugh to be if she gets soon ordinary right.
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Here it is on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wroj0FLvzs), posted by the guy who shot the clip.
Embarrassing? Yes.
Representative or typical of Americans? No.
Do I have a third question/answer? Maybe.
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*face-in-hands*
...so are 'A' rabs different than 'B' rabs? And how would she know... looks like she knows more about 'C'rabs than anything else.
Jesus... could you imagine being these peoples' parents and having to introduce them to... well, ANYone...
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wow.
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Idiot Americans...(Shortened for brevity)
Trying to read that truly made my head hurt.
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Trying to read that truly made my head hurt.
Dutch ---> Babblefish ---> English will do that.
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crekhoer...
I love you Ivan.
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Fuck it all. I'm running for President.
http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=370743&altf=Ypmjl&altl= (http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=370743&altf=Ypmjl&altl=)
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/me pulls his lever in Xolik's direction
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http://en.sevenload.com/videos/saBEfaN-Sarahpalinsextape
Republican Bosses might consider it NSFW. Democrats will give you a raise :-D
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Obama said he campaigned in 57 states.
Obama said Kentucky is closer to Arkansas than his home state of Illinois. Kentucky borders Illinois, but not Arkansas.
Obama asked the UN Security Council to condemn Russia. Russia has veto power over the UN Security Council.
Obama said we have too few interpreters in Afghanistan, because they are all in Iraq. In Iraq and Afghanistan the citizens speak different languages.
Obama said Kennedy talked to Khrushchev to get missiles out of Cuba. They talked in 1961. The missiles went there in 1962.
Obama said his uncle in the American military liberated Auschwitz. The Russians liberated Auschwitz.
Obama blamed Bush for the rise of Hugo Chavez. Chavez was elected 2 years before Bush.
Obama said the treatment for child asthma is: Give them a Breathalyzer.
Obama claimed 10,000 people died in a Kansas hurricane. The real number was 12.
Obama said our nation honors “fallen heroes, and I see many of them standing here today.” Fallen heroes are dead so he must have seen ghosts.
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Man Obama sure says a lot of things!
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Yessiree! I lot of different things! Tailored to the current listener. What a public servant!
...wait - is it racist to call him a servant?
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It's almost like...he's trying to appeal to a wide variety of people...so he...gets elected?
I think I might be on to something here.
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I think I might be on to something here.
Nah, 'sbeen done. Old hat.
Come up with something . . . new. Let's have some.. oooo wait.. CHANGE.
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He just wants to get on the subway and go home why isn't anyone in those huge crowds helping him? :cry:
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subway huge crowds
Excellent cover-and-concealment ideas for the next episode.
I'll tell Nuge. He'll hunt you down and love you for it.
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Please don't out me as a secret internet Obama operative 12 I might lose my e-subterfuge license
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Always safe wit meh, Greln... Lacerda. 8-)