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Title: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: diermalfunction on April 17, 2009, 12:48:42 PM: President Barack Obama was scheduled to speak at commencement at Notre Dame University, however due to his views on abortion, and stem cell research many alumni of the highly acclaimed university are threatening to hold back their donations if he is allowed to speak. In history every president since the schools creation has spoken at the commencement ceremony.
:slap

Personally I see these actions as a way for people(not just Catholics) to use there own doctrine to justify their own hate. Yes President Obama has different values, but in the end, by every word in the bible, aren't we taught to cohabitate with our fellow man and treat him as we wish to be treated. Just a little advice out there for the students of Notre Dame, pull the plank from your own eye before you attempt to remove the speck from Obama's.

Looking forward to hearing your views on this :-D
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: xolik on April 17, 2009, 01:15:34 PM: "This man holds many views that are contrary to what we espouse. I don't think we should have him give the speech" = OMG HATE

You can disagree with somebody and respectfully request that they do not show up on campus and give a speech without it being, you know, hate.

Now if Obama asked if it would be OK if he gave a speech and their response was "Up yours, Nigger" then maybe I'd agree that there was an element of hate involved.

Maybe you could link the source article in question?
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: diermalfunction on April 17, 2009, 01:24:18 PM: Np amigo, btw just to let everyone know I feel as though I am a bit under educated and subscribed to this sight so that I could learn to articulately and acurately express my views, and learn from the rest of you about current events and web culture. Ty for your post on here again, and here's the link. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29976441/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29976441/)
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: Vespertine on April 17, 2009, 04:20:24 PM: I think I have to agree with xolik. It is possible for a disagreement to be driven by something other than hate. In this case you're talking about a CATHOLIC institution. It makes sense to me that they wouldn't necessarily want a pro-choice speaker at their biggest event of the year.
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: Min on April 17, 2009, 08:08:43 PM: Heh, I can totally see that.

But if "every president since the schools creation has spoken at the commencement ceremony", they must have overlooked it at some point in the past?
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: Wunderkind on April 17, 2009, 09:01:23 PM: Keeping in mind I am young and asking this because I sincerely don't know, but has a president entered office openly saying he was pro-choice before?

Also, I get it and I don't have a problem with it.
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: diermalfunction on April 18, 2009, 12:47:22 AM: Thank you for your insights, I guess I needed to see the situation from a different perspective.
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: reimero on April 22, 2009, 11:31:13 AM: Ironically the one topic where I have a lot to say, yet can't say anything. I like my job.

I will say this: not every President has spoken at ND since its founding. We've had (I believe) Kennedy, Carter, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. Clinton was invited but declined.

I'll also say Randal Terry needs to go away. This is a Notre Dame issue, not his.
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: pbsaurus on April 22, 2009, 02:10:33 PM: I don't want a person under my employment speaking at any commencement when there are more pressing issues. Come on Obama, get to work and quit campaigning already.
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: 12AX7 on April 22, 2009, 02:19:50 PM: Quote from: pbsaurus on April 22, 2009, 02:10:33 PM
I don't want a person under my employment speaking at any commencement when there are more pressing issues. Come on Obama, get to work and quit campaigning already.

+1
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: Clear_Runway on May 02, 2009, 03:24:15 PM: I agree. all we get from this guy is campaign speeches. It's over, Barry.
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: jeee on May 04, 2009, 02:42:38 PM: Well he has one thing that the previous one didn't have and that is brains.
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: Clear_Runway on May 04, 2009, 03:49:00 PM: And when, exactly, did you get the impression that Obama was particularly smart? sure, he can talk, he's good at that, but I don't exactly see him passing out his I.Q. test results or applying for mensa membership or anything.
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: jeee on May 05, 2009, 03:25:37 AM: The moment he was elected. I have more faith in Obama then in George. I don't need a US marine on my doorstep to deliver democracy and with George I was not entirely sure that would not happen.
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: reimero on May 07, 2009, 09:28:56 AM: Quote from: jeee on May 05, 2009, 03:25:37 AM
I have more faith in Obama then in George.

Not the strongest of endorsements, there...
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: xolik on May 07, 2009, 12:26:01 PM: I'm pretty sure the country is screwed no matter who is in charge. Wonder what will happen when the whole damn place goes bankrupt?

Also, this:
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: Clear_Runway on May 07, 2009, 03:23:24 PM: ^
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| sometimes it seems like that. very astute comic :-P
Title: Re: Obama Vs. Notre Dame
Post by: pbsaurus on May 08, 2009, 01:22:37 PM: Yep loved that one. The topper one today was pretty good.