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• (January 12, 2023, 01:18:11 AM)

[xolik]

"Obama is the candidate of compassion, understanding, ho....HAHAHAH THAT CUNT HAS A RETARDED BABY LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"

[ivan]

"Obama is the candidate of compassion, understanding, ho....HAHAHAH THAT CUNT HAS A RETARDED BABY LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"

The latent misogyny of the left, rearing its disgusting head again. The Daily Kos should be nuked from orbit.

[xolik]

The latent misogyny of the left, rearing its disgusting head again. The Daily Kos should be nuked from orbit.

To be fair, I don't pay Daily Kos or Free Republic any attention. I wish they'd just make out already and get it over with.

DK - "YOU FASCIST NAZIS"
FREEP - "YOU STALINIST PIGS"
*cue porno music*

[Locke]

A primary reason that Obama's name is being overly popularized is because it's the most effective way to win votes from the American public in this day and age. In a country raped by a capitalist consumer agenda and filled to the brim with infantilized adults [today's voters], the politician's best bet is to portray himself as a product.

Personally I've read hearings from prior to 9/11 at which Obama spoke. He was eloquent, adamant, and passionate about focusing the political attention and power on problems in American households, streets, cities, governing bodies. He spoke of the ill and healthcare, he discouraged errant agendas. Obama politely pointed out that certain battles between different branches of the government over small inconveniences were regrettably outweighing more important matters. Matters such as the expanding differences in class, the inevitable recession that would result of the economically uneven circulation of currency, and more.

For the first time in a very long time a man has come along that wants to improve America for America. However from what I have seen today... the color of his skin, the lack of political experience, and the pure ignorance of the average American may prevent him from entering or completing a single term of presidency. I can only hope this is not the case.

-Locke

[BizB]

Wow.  Pass the Kool Aid, please.

Why is it that if I'm not going to vote for Obama, it must be because of the color of his skin and not because he's the MOST liberal member of the US Senate in history.

I want less government, not more.  I'm certainly not going to vote for someone who promises to take over 1/7th of the US economy (Health care).

[Locke]

Wow.  Pass the Kool Aid, please.

Why is it that if I'm not going to vote for Obama, it must be because of the color of his skin and not because he's the MOST liberal member of the US Senate in history.

I want less government, not more.  I'm certainly not going to vote for someone who promises to take over 1/7th of the US economy (Health care).

If that post was directed toward me:

I was not implying that all those voting against Obama are doing so due to his flesh. There are a multitude of reasons people aren't voting for Obama.

I choose to judge the potential of a leader by his passion, opinions, intent, and how relative those opinions or their intent are to my own. I'm sure you base your evaluation of candidates in a similar fashion.

However the same cannot be said of everyone. Sometimes a name is all it takes.

If not:
Disregard the above.

[Min]

There are a multitude of reasons people aren't voting for Obama.

Yes, so many reasons.  One of the reasons I'm not voting for him is because I don't like socialism.  Being raped by the capitalist agenda sounds way better than anything the socialist agenda wants to do to me.

[BizB]

I choose to judge the potential of a leader by his passion, opinions, intent...

Oh. You would love the mayor of Toledo, or Detroit, then.

Detroit's mayor is so passionate about his city that the just admitted to a felony, accepted 120 days in prison and gave up his law license because he was so passionate about his city.  He intended to continue to lie in court until that pesky governor got involved.

Now, for Toledo's mayor... Oh hell, there's not enough energy in my soul to tell you all of the gaffs of this wonderful mayor but let me assure you that he's passionate about his opinions and his intent is to make Toledo a great city.  He just has no clue how to do it.

[Wunderkind]

There are a multitude of reasons people aren't voting for Obama.

One them is that some people vote for leaders based on their ability to lead not just inspire. As inspiring as Obama's been, I can't find a single instance of him leading. And yes, they are two different things.

[ivan]

For the first time in a very long time a man has come along that wants to improve America for America.

Not everyone thinks America needs improving. And among those that do, there is little agreement on what should be done. The two logical traps that lefties fall into, over and over, is the assumption that what they see as America's problems are self-evident, and that the only reason America's problems persist is a lack of political will to solve them. The first trap leads them to demonize anyone who does not agree with them, and the second leads them to demonize whoever happens to be in charge.

[pbsaurus]

Our elected officials don't work.  They go on vacations and campaign.  I will vote for someone other than O'Cain or McBama.

[BizB]

You're not far off, really, but you could state it several different ways.

"Stop the pointless war" could be said as "accept defeat".
"Do exactly what Bush says but to the extreme" could be said as "Continue to secure freedom and democracy in the Middle East."

Semantics.  Point of view.  Promises.  Lies.

[xolik]

"Stop the pointless war" could be said as "accept defeat".

Sí se puede!

[Greenshoes]

I am willing to admit that Mr. Obama's political endeavors will certainly enact change, some of it revolutionary and benevolent, some of it misguided and overzealous. I am also willing to admit that Mr. Obama would be a success in many arenas of foreign relations, being charismatic and able to identify with many of the conditions that exist outside of the United States. I admit these things because they are true.

However, Mr. Obama has no experience in the fields of leadership and administration. This may seem prejudiced toward the inexperienced, a catch-22 against those who would threaten the established power order in Washington. This is not the case. The office of the President of the United States is not one to be granted to a candidate lacking experience. On-the-job training is simply not an option when the most powerful country on Earth is at your disposal, to make or break in an instant.

Many claim Sarah palin is under-qualified to serve as Vice President (or, perhaps, president, given Mr. McCain's advanced years) because she is merely the governor of an under-populated state with few social issues. The fact is, Alaska maintains relations with two foreign countries and manages vast economic resources, many of which are intimately tied to the energy crisis. Ms. Palin has unique qualifications that are being widely overlooked, and Mr. Obama cannot even claim to have as much experience as she.

In short, I believe our country's security and stability would be mismanaged by Mr. Obama, despite his intermittent advantages.

[BizB]

So, you're voting for Bob Barr, too, eh?

edit: assumes citizenship and age.

[ivan]

I might vote for Mr. Barr for antic reasons. I am, after all, registered LP.

In any case, I can't bring myself to vote for either of the two dominant tickets.

[RelandR]

... The office of the President of the United States is not one to be granted to a candidate lacking experience. On-the-job training is simply not an option when the most powerful country on Earth is at your disposal, to make or break in an instant. ...

We've certainly had 8 years of that experience. It's like Harpo Marx and the three stooges have had their way twice and even brought in the keystone cops to help trash the joint. What a mess.

... Many claim Sarah palin is under-qualified to serve as Vice President (or, perhaps, president, given Mr. McCain's advanced years) because she is merely the governor of an under-populated state with few social issues.  ...

I'm sure some folks may be looking at it like that but I haven't heard it put quite that way. Most I've heard so far as being the popularly held belief in proof of her inexperience was more along the lines of her having had such a very short time as anything beyond civil manager of a one-horse town. That, and several points of n00bish blunders she's made in the few political positions that she has held.

... The fact is, Alaska maintains relations with two foreign countries and manages vast economic resources, many of which are intimately tied to the energy crisis. Ms. Palin has unique qualifications that are being widely overlooked,  ...

What relations? Are you seriously suggesting that because of Alaska's proximity to Canada and Russia that Palin has dealt with either on an international relationship level? On that note, there are several states that share a border with Canada or Mexico, does that make their Governors equally qualified?
Also, I'm not sure that she has had an active hand on any of the "vast resources" as their management is pretty much turnkey affairs ran by well established agencies within the state with a heavy federal presence for the ongoing operations. I'm still waiting to hear a convincing sell of her "unique qualifications".

...   Mr. Obama cannot even claim to have as much experience as she. ...

I believe they are not too far from each other as far as "time in public service" goes, however Obama's time at least includes some apprenticeship at a federal level. And I 'm sure he knows what the vice presidents job involves.

... I am also willing to admit that Mr. Obama would be a success in many arenas of foreign relations, being charismatic and able to identify with many of the conditions that exist outside of the United States. ...

... I believe our country's security and stability would be mismanaged by Mr. Obama, despite his intermittent advantages. ...

I believe our country's security and stability will be mismanaged by any of the current major players. I think I'd find slight comfort though in Barak's apparent diplomatic demeanor should he get the job.

Where for art thou, Ron Paul.

[xolik]

Where for art thou, Ron Paul.

If you meant it like 'wherefore art thou, Ron Paul', that's what his parents named him.
If you meant it like 'where are you, Ron Paul', then jerking it furiously over the price of gold going up.

[MISTER MASSACRE]

If you meant it like 'wherefore art thou, Ron Paul', that's what his parents named him.

He's old enough for that to be the kind of language they used while naming him.

"And what shall I name thee, fruit o' my loins? Angels, sparkling golden luminescent, spake unto me from their gilt clouds: thine name shall be Ron Paul."

[RelandR]

hmmm, I figures I'd screw it up.

Where for art thou, Ron Paul?

I don't need to know what you are doing, just get your ass back in there, go independent.

[xolik]

He's old enough for that to be the kind of language they used while naming him.

"And what shall I name thee, fruit o' my loins? Angels, sparkling PURESTRAIN golden luminescent, spake unto me from their gilt clouds: thine name shall be Ron Paul."

You left out that part.

[pbsaurus]

With that fascist theocratic repub Barr running as a libertarian, that's taken away from me now.  Perhaps Nader will get my vote, or perhaps the Green.  I haven't even researched who else is running yet.  I'd like Bloomberg to go independent and get on all the ballots or at least register as a write in for all the ballots.  He would have the resources to buck the system.  (yep, last go-around I discovered that for you to count as a write in candidate you have to register as such in each state)

[RelandR]

*PURESTRAIN*  (You left out that part).

Granted, Ron has some *out there* ideas IMO, but at least he has actual ideas - many of which sound good to me and he does not hesitate to jump right in and 'splain'em, at least the cliff note version(s). Too many politicians blahblahblah about what needs to be addressed without so much as a clue to how they plan to go about it.

One of Ron's outspoken positions is that he is fully aware that the prez cannot just foist his will upon the people without breaking the law and he's against special interest favour.

He's absolute about following what is 'legal' and what the majority want using leadership and influence to initiate new/modified policies that benefit the greatest number of us.

[12AX7]

COCKS LOL

[jeee]

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Good Luck !