Topic: Turing Test (Read 10602 times)

undercovernerd · « **on:** March 20, 2007, 02:34:19 PM »

Hey everyone,

My name is Meagan and I'm new here.

I was wondering if anyone know a bit about the Turing Test.
I am trying to find out if there are any current supporters (preferably professionals) of the Turing Tests and its ability to prove whether or not a machine can 'think'.

Hit me up to chat and let me know if you know of any!

Cheers!

ivan · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2007, 02:41:21 PM »

It would help to know what class this is for.

undercovernerd · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2007, 02:52:27 PM »

It's for my comm, tech, and culture class. I did, however, get to choose my own topic and this is the thesis I would like to argue:

Although the Turing Test has been used to assess a machine’s capability to perform human-like conversation, it is not a relevant method for proving artificial intelligence.

I wanted to show both sides of the argument so my paper isn't too biased, but I can't find anyone who supports Turing's ideas.

ivan · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2007, 02:55:47 PM »

This is generally an anti-Turing site, but I am a lone holdout. I am very much in favour of Turing. My argument is, how the hell else are you supposed to suport an album? Word-of-frikken-mouth? Those bastard majors won't lift a pinky to help. Hell -- even the Stones believe in Turing, and they're FAMOUS.

FAMOUS!!!

ivan · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2007, 02:56:13 PM »

Besides, machines don't "think".

undercovernerd · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2007, 02:58:02 PM »

So I'm assuming you don't know of any professionals.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2007, 02:59:53 PM »

Welcome n00b. This site should help you clacky clacky

undercovernerd · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:01:49 PM »

cute.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:02:59 PM »

The twinkie or the undergrad?

ivan · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:05:51 PM »

Quote from: undercovernerd on March 20, 2007, 02:58:02 PM

So I'm assuming you don't know of any professionals.

In what field?

pbsaurus · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:06:25 PM »

I could really use a professional.

ivan · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:07:30 PM »

Quote

A profession is an occupation that requires extensive training and the study and mastery of specialized knowledge, and usually has a professional association, ethical code and process of certification or licensing. Examples are: librarianship, diplomacy, accounting, engineering, law, teaching, architecture, medicine, social work, pharmacy, finance, the military, the clergy, nursing, and those who work or perform research in the various sciences.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:08:42 PM »

What about Kaopectate?

ivan · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:08:53 PM »

Being a computer guy is not a profession.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:10:38 PM »

You're assuming that that quotation represents the entire domain of Professions. Perhaps it's only a subset.

ivan · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:12:58 PM »

Computer guys don't have a guild or a licenceing system or a code of ethics or anything like that.

Unless... Unless all you other bastards are holding out on me!!!

pbsaurus · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:14:39 PM »

Computer guys like Demo have procedural language. Which is kinda like a code of ethics. Well it's code at least.

undercovernerd · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:16:26 PM »

By professional I mean someone that is worth mentioning - unlike you.

Someone who has extensive knowledge in mathematic, linguistics, computer science, etc.
Someone who is widely known and highly respected.

I don't think you guys can help me out here.

Thanks anyways.

ivan · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:18:35 PM »

Quote from: undercovernerd on March 20, 2007, 03:16:26 PM

By professional I mean someone that is worth mentioning - unlike you.

Someone who has extensive knowledge in mathematic, linguistics, computer science, etc.
Someone who is widely known and highly respected.

I don't think you guys can help me out here.

Thanks anyways.

Don't use words like "professional" unless you know what they mean.

Don't crash into forums looking for free advice from strangers.

Bye-bye!

pbsaurus · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:22:01 PM »

Oh and a little tip for you. Google John Searle and his Chinese Room.

beard man · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:24:27 PM »

Quote from: undercovernerd on March 20, 2007, 03:16:26 PM

By professional I mean someone that is worth mentioning - unlike you.

Someone who has extensive knowledge in mathematic, linguistics, computer science, etc.
Someone who is widely known and highly respected.

I don't think you guys can help me out here.

Thanks anyways.

Yeah, you sound like a little TWIRP!! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!!! GOOD RIDDANCE!!!

undercovernerd · « **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:25:43 PM »

Thanks for the Searle comment, at least someone shows courtesy.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #22 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:28:56 PM »

You're welcome. By the way this is an online community. We are here for the social aspects. If you have time to kill and want to goof around, feel free to come back and hang out.

ivan · « **Reply #23 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:38:21 PM »

Quote from: undercovernerd on March 20, 2007, 03:25:43 PM

Thanks for the Searle comment, at least someone shows courtesy.

Pb is a nice guy. He would be courteous to the most heinous boor.

Do you realize that posting a request for help without first getting to know a few of us here is very much not courteous?

pbsaurus · « **Reply #24 on:** March 20, 2007, 03:39:48 PM »

I'm just trying to get the agency off my back.

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