Topic: Getcher RED HOT Brand New Chick Tracts here! (Read 9223 times)

Agent_Tachyon · « **Reply #25 on:** June 19, 2007, 10:18:49 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgzdNM7k0fQ

A multimedia adaptation of Chick's classic take on the Titanic disaster.

ivan · « **Reply #26 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:00:35 PM »

This is too long for me to watch right now. What's the upshot?

I'm asking because way back in the 70s I attended (as a college newspaper reporter) a Campus Crusade presentation of "The Titanic Story", which was used (probably not for the first time by a long shot even then) as an allegory for the coming rapture and apocolypse. The story is, of course, allegorically rich: the hubris of man resulting in a modern-day tower of Babel, overreliance on technology rather than spiritualism... When the stewards were running around trying to get people to save themselves, they were largely ignored, just like modern day evangelists are largely ignored... And, in the end, only 20% of the passengers could be saved, because that's how many lifeboats there were.

I got into a series of bitter arguments with these folk. I said, so no matter what, only a fifth of mankind will be saved? That is correct, they said. So what's the point? If you are doomed, you are doomed! Ah, they say, you are certainly doomed if you ignore the call and do not accept Jesus into your life. But... but... Why can't EVERYONE who believes and lives right and goes to church and prays be saved? Because, they said, only one-fifth of humanity will be saved.

Later I understood this to be some kind of diluted form of Calvinist thinking.

Agent_Tachyon · « **Reply #27 on:** June 20, 2007, 01:31:54 PM »

Calvinism is interesting, I'm intrigued by their notions of predestination.

The Chick tract is fairly standard (though none of the Mormon/Satan/Catholic/Rock Music/Islam/Science conspiracies that make his work truly memorable), involving the plight of Chester, an unsaved blasphemer aboard the Titanic. Throughout the voyage he is haunted by the messages of his mother-in-law (I think that's who it was anyway) to accept Jesus before it's too late. Suprise surprise, he dies in the end and Faceless White God tosses him into the lake of fire, just like in 99% of the Chick tracts. This one isn't one of my favourites, it's a bit bland for my taste, but I've never seen one adapted in this fashion.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #28 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:04:49 PM »

Back in college we used to go to the evangelical presentations about satanic music such as John Denver, Venom, and Led Zeppelin. It was always highly entertaining.

Paladin · « **Reply #29 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:45:25 PM »

About what was said at the begining of this thread (don't acuse me of necrophilia, i didn't revive it) about why people lie to their own children about santa etc, i have a theory:
It's a kind of a right of passage for children to realise that their parents are lying to them, and the ones that do that on their own will be more inclined to critical thinking about everything they are told from then on. And that's a good thing for them.
On the other hand, most start to "doublethink", so they will be able to believe contrary things at the same time, so maybe it's not the right method for this (or it's right if the goal was to brainwash the child).

And about doublethink, this Chick comic http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp is good proof, people can confront others with archaeological/ historical/ anthropological evidence, but they can comfortably ignore the evidence against what they believe.

Agent_Tachyon · « **Reply #30 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:33:29 PM »

Quote from: pbsaurus on June 20, 2007, 02:04:49 PM

Back in college we used to go to the evangelical presentations about satanic music such as John Denver, Venom, and Led Zeppelin. It was always highly entertaining.

John Denver??? Was that about the Rocky Mountain "High" thing?

Agent_Tachyon · « **Reply #31 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:36:44 PM »

Quote from: Paladin on June 20, 2007, 02:45:25 PM

About what was said at the begining of this thread (don't acuse me of necrophilia, i didn't revive it) about why people lie to their own children about santa etc, i have a theory:
It's a kind of a right of passage for children to realise that their parents are lying to them, and the ones that do that on their own will be more inclined to critical thinking about everything they are told from then on. And that's a good thing for them.
On the other hand, most start to "doublethink", so they will be able to believe contrary things at the same time, so maybe it's not the right method for this (or it's right if the goal was to brainwash the child).

And about doublethink, this Chick comic http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp is good proof, people can confront others with archaeological/ historical/ anthropological evidence, but they can comfortably ignore the evidence against what they believe.

In a similar vein, I had an interesting revelation about 'spreading allegiance bases'. When you're a little tyke, your allegiance is to your parents. What they say is law, and you believe it. That's an 'allegiance' of two (I'm assuming two parents as standard here for sake of convenience). When you get a bit older and go to school, you're expected to have a certain amount of 'school spirit', and this extends your loyalty to a still larger group. When you go out into the world, you're expected to be loyal to your country (still larger). It forms a sort of pyramid if you think about it.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #32 on:** June 20, 2007, 04:51:16 PM »

Quote from: Agent_Tachyon on June 20, 2007, 03:33:29 PM

John Denver??? Was that about the Rocky Mountain "High" thing?

I even forget how he was so satanic. All I remember was the absurdity of it. Maybe they backward masked his LPs like they did with Zep.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #33 on:** June 20, 2007, 04:56:17 PM »

Google is my friend. I think it was these guys: I remember seeing a film something like what they mention This was afterall back in '85 or '86

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Campus Crusade has always made an accommodation with rock music, notwithstanding the fact that nothing is as opposed to the gospel as the ethos of rock. About 1984, Paragon Experience, a ministry of Campus Crusade, produced a multimedia production, "The Dreamweaver." Unlike traditional movie entertainment, "The Dreamweaver" contains only two minutes of talking. Instead, the storyline is communicated through the use of visuals precisely synchronized to the lyrics of contemporary music from the Beatles, John Denver, Simon and Garfunkel, Kansas, Styx, and others, blending this stereophonic music with drama. How can the world's music communicate God's message? Answer: It can't. (New Neutralism II, pp. 42-47). (Bright also spoke at the "Fishnet '91" rock concert (9/90, Flashpoint, p. 3), and was on ZTV's advisory board (6/91, Charisma and Christian Life, p. 64). ZTV is a major 24-hour music video network targeting 12-34 year-olds.)

12AX7 · « **Reply #34 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:03:37 PM »

OOo.. "stereophonic music" blended with drama! Teh Ev1L!!

HHHiiiiiisssssssssss!!

Imagine the blasphemy emitted from the quadraphonic era... it's a wonder we survived at all.

12AX7 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:05:15 PM »

I spun Led Zeppelin's "Brown Bomber" album backwards. In "The Lemon Song" you can clearly hear a demon pleading "Felix! Save My Life!"

Agent_Tachyon · « **Reply #36 on:** June 20, 2007, 09:23:55 PM »

If you play 'I remember Larry' backwards you can hear 'Boy you must have a lot of free time on your hands'.

xolik · « **Reply #37 on:** June 20, 2007, 10:04:23 PM »

Quote from: Agent_Tachyon on June 20, 2007, 09:23:55 PM

If you play 'I remember Larry' backwards you can hear 'Boy you must have a lot of free time on your hands'.

Holy Shit! I only know that Oingo Boingo's "Cry of the Vatos" backwards has a pro-Christian message.

Paladin · « **Reply #38 on:** June 21, 2007, 02:09:38 AM »

Try playing AOL CD's backwards, i'm pretty sure they have a satanical message.

RelandR · « **Reply #39 on:** June 21, 2007, 03:42:14 AM »

Subliminal pr0n, with varying naughty net-nanny settings.

12AX7 · « **Reply #40 on:** June 21, 2007, 06:08:41 AM »

Quote from: Paladin on June 21, 2007, 02:09:38 AM

Try playing AOL CD's backwards, i'm pretty sure they have a satanical message.

Ha. Even worse; play it forward. It installs AOL.

Demosthenes · « **Reply #41 on:** June 21, 2007, 05:45:33 PM »

Quote from: Agent_Tachyon on June 20, 2007, 01:31:54 PM

Calvinism is interesting, I'm intrigued by their notions of predestination.

As you were meant to be.

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