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Along with transformers, the car "bumblebee" is being sold on eBay right now for over 30k. And that engine they show in the movie isn't the real engine in it.
Dude not the new camaro it turns into the orriginal old one. Quit tryin to flame me
What, Lady Marmalade is a dude?
Quote from: Person2This movie was SO good.It was shockingly good if you enter with low expectations.can't wait for the next one!!!!Well, I thought it was shocking, but 'good' was not the adjective I would reach for. Maybe you can convince me of the error of my ways.I'll tell you what I didn't like.1) The camera was apparently operated by a child of 5 with ADD who had been force-fed 5 pounds of sugar. Yes, the effects were great. Would have been nice to actually see what was going on.2) For a movie called 'Transformers', the human cast got the vast majority of the screen time. And they were almost universally annoying.3) Decepticons had no personality, period. I know, Megatron had what... all of 5 lines? Most of which were stupid. They only existed as a plot device to cause big explosions.4) Speaking of plot... it sucked. The movie could not decide if it wanted to be an action film, some sort of teen-romance thing, a hacker film or what. Why, with Decepticons in pursuit, did they drive into the middle of a city except to have a big firefight in a city?5) Too many useless characters. The Australian signal-analysis "expert" and her "only one hacker in the world" buddy are the best example of this. They could have been cut entirely and nothing would have been lost.6) Plot holes and plots that went nowhere. a) The jailbird juvie girlfriend. What was the point of that, except for one sulky line? Never resolved. b) Australian girl and her hacker c) How about the sequence where Starscream attacked the good guys in the city. The american military sagely concludes that it must be an alian because 'no human pilot would fly below the rooftops in a city' (personally I'd think the fact that an F22 was attacking them in the first place might be a clue). What happens 5 minutes later when a whole squadron of F22s arrives to blast Megatron? Yep, right down to the street level. No one seemed to think they must be aliens.7) The Prime / Megatron battle was NOT SHOWN. They made a big deal about setting it up and then cut away. Cutting back later when Prime had (apparently) lost.8 ) Prime was the only Autobot which much in the way of a speaking part. And while he said the right things, I could not figure out for the life of me where he was getting this stuff from "protect the humans, etc". I hadn't seen any humans worth protecting to that point.Bumblebee, the transformer who gets along best with humans was not even allowed to speak.9) I really didn't care for the new robot designs. Far too many moving parts. They looked like a mess when they transformed and were hard to tell apart in battle. It doesn't bother me they were different than the originals, but the new designs were a mess.
This movie was SO good.It was shockingly good if you enter with low expectations.can't wait for the next one!!!!
I have to agree with this analysis, but I still enjoyed the movie anyway. It could certainly have been way better tho.I'm not that familiar with transformers. I used to watch it as a kid but don't remember much of it thanks to my poor memory. When bumbelbee transforms as a robot after the initial fight and "calls" the other autobots via a tranformer crest light signal, was that based on the original cartoon or were they just copying the bat signal?Regarding point number 5, I totally agree. That was the first thing I said when I left. I'd say there's a good 20 minutes of screen time that was wasted because of the hot blond hacker and her playstation/rapper/hacker friend (who by the way says "Hey! There's a code in here! and all of a sudden you start seeing traqnsformer icons on his screen. Nice ). They should have taken that whole storyline out completely. It could have meant an extra 20 minutes of action packed, "I'm not exactly sure what's going on but there's things spinning ans there's kri kroo kroo kra kra sound effects" fight scenes. Also, the characters were just not beleivable as hackers. What is this? The net?I thought the initial attack on the military base by the helicopter decepticon (I'm not even hardcore enough to remember the name) was pretty sweet. The camera angles were actually good for that scene. You could see the robot wreak havok from a distance and it wasn't a constant "in your face" things spinning/explosions like the rest of the fight scenes. I thought the movie looked very promising after seeing that battle, but was very dissapointed with the subsequent battle scenes. It almost felt like they changed the director while filming.When bumblebee changed from old to new, I didn't know tranformers had that power. I thought they were constructructed and designed in a specific way. I didn't know they could photocopy and replicate anything. Just like the little stereo decepticon that changed into a cell phone. But maybe they could actually do that in the cartoons and I just don't remember it.I didn't care for the scene where the autobots were gathered around the kid's house "hiding" from the parents (while smashing stuff in the yard and peeking in the windows ith the high beems on).I didn't really mind the new skins but would have preffered that they weren't brand cars but i can see how that geenrates filming budget.
Quote from: TheJudgecalls" the other autobots via a tranformer crest light signal, was that based on the original cartoon or were they just copying the bat signal?Just a ripoff I think.QuoteI thought the initial attack on the military base by the helicopter decepticon (I'm not even hardcore enough to remember the name) was pretty sweet.Fully agree, and that scene actually got my hopes up. It was done well.QuoteWhen bumblebee changed from old to new, I didn't know tranformers had that power.They didn't in the cartoon have that power. I don't actually have a problem with it in the movie though, personally. It's an interesting plot device.QuoteI didn't care for the scene where the autobots were gathered around the kid's house "hiding" from the parents (while smashing stuff in the yard and peeking in the windows ith the high beems on).I actually thought that scene was sort of funny and campy, and the only point in the film where there was any real humor involving the 'bots. I know many people dislike this scene though. The stupid conversation between the parents and the kid is what I hated during this scene.
calls" the other autobots via a tranformer crest light signal, was that based on the original cartoon or were they just copying the bat signal?
I thought the initial attack on the military base by the helicopter decepticon (I'm not even hardcore enough to remember the name) was pretty sweet.
When bumblebee changed from old to new, I didn't know tranformers had that power.
I didn't care for the scene where the autobots were gathered around the kid's house "hiding" from the parents (while smashing stuff in the yard and peeking in the windows ith the high beems on).
Quote from: Person11) The camera was apparently operated by a child of 5 with ADD who had been force-fed 5 pounds of sugar. Yes, the effects were great. Would have been nice to actually see what was going on. I think they ran out of money at the end of the movie. Quote2) For a movie called 'Transformers', the human cast got the vast majority of the screen time. And they were almost universally annoying. I think they were actually pretty close to the way I remember them from the old cartoon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witwicky_familyThe only person who isn't the same is the dad.. but that's ok. Shia LeBoeuf was great. I'm very happy that he's going to be the new Indy. See, you have to remember where you're coming from. In a cartoon, it costs the same to animate an Autobot as it does a human. In a massive real-life movie, the costs are completely out of whack. So, you focus on the humans and tell the story through them. It's actually the way that the first season of Transformers starts off.. as the Witwickys learn about the Autobots at the same time as the audience. Quote3) Decepticons had no personality, period. I know, Megatron had what... all of 5 lines? Most of which were stupid. They only existed as a plot device to cause big explosions.No better reason to exist. Megatron is frozen the whole time.. what can you expect? Give it time.. .you know Starscream is gonna have some stuff to say in the sequel. 4) Speaking of plot... it sucked. The movie could not decide if it wanted to be an action film, some sort of teen-romance thing, a hacker film or what. Why, with Decepticons in pursuit, did they drive into the middle of a city except to have a big firefight in a city?
1) The camera was apparently operated by a child of 5 with ADD who had been force-fed 5 pounds of sugar. Yes, the effects were great. Would have been nice to actually see what was going on.
2) For a movie called 'Transformers', the human cast got the vast majority of the screen time. And they were almost universally annoying.
3) Decepticons had no personality, period. I know, Megatron had what... all of 5 lines? Most of which were stupid. They only existed as a plot device to cause big explosions.
5) Too many useless characters. The Australian signal-analysis "expert" and her "only one hacker in the world" buddy are the best example of this. They could have been cut entirely and nothing would have been lost.6) Plot holes and plots that went nowhere. a) The jailbird juvie girlfriend. What was the point of that, except for one sulky line? Never resolved. b) Australian girl and her hacker c) How about the sequence where Starscream attacked the good guys in the city. The american military sagely concludes that it must be an alian because 'no human pilot would fly below the rooftops in a city' (personally I'd think the fact that an F22 was attacking them in the first place might be a clue). What happens 5 minutes later when a whole squadron of F22s arrives to blast Megatron? Yep, right down to the street level. No one seemed to think they must be aliens.
7) The Prime / Megatron battle was NOT SHOWN. They made a big deal about setting it up and then cut away. Cutting back later when Prime had (apparently) lost.
8 ) Prime was the only Autobot which much in the way of a speaking part. And while he said the right things, I could not figure out for the life of me where he was getting this stuff from "protect the humans, etc". I hadn't seen any humans worth protecting to that point.Bumblebee, the transformer who gets along best with humans was not even allowed to speak.
9) I really didn't care for the new robot designs. Far too many moving parts. They looked like a mess when they transformed and were hard to tell apart in battle. It doesn't bother me they were different than the originals, but the new designs were a mess.
Quote1) The camera was apparently operated by a child of 5 with ADD who had been force-fed 5 pounds of sugar. Yes, the effects were great. Would have been nice to actually see what was going on.> I think they ran out of money at the end of the movie. No, it was filmed in that style deliberately. The more motion you have in a shot the harder it is to match-move and have it look right (and consequently the more it costs for post-production). As chaotic as the camera was, that was some of the best looking CGI integration I've seen, even with the camera whipping around insanely. It wasn't a budget issue, it was a poor choice in how to do it.Umm, and for a movie with an estimated $150 million budget, I have little sympathy if they could not manage that sensibly.QuoteShia LeBoeuf was great. I'm very happy that he's going to be the new Indy. He was ok. Almost everyone else sucked, was extraneous or was entirely forgettable.QuoteRemembering that this is a movie about giant robots..... No, its a movie about a bunch of dumb humans with a number of giant robot cameos. It if was actually a movie about giant robots I would have less of an issue.QuoteNo better reason to exist. Megatron is frozen the whole time.. what can you expect?Yeah, and that was a brilliant plot choice. Instead of running around doing.... well anything... he's an ice cube until the last 25 minutes. Very good use of a potentially interesting character. I guess when it comes down to it... I could have been more forgiving if they even smoothed out the camera and let me SEE what was going on. But they didn't even manage to get that part right. There's just so little left to redeem this movie.
1) The camera was apparently operated by a child of 5 with ADD who had been force-fed 5 pounds of sugar. Yes, the effects were great. Would have been nice to actually see what was going on.> I think they ran out of money at the end of the movie.
Shia LeBoeuf was great. I'm very happy that he's going to be the new Indy.
Remembering that this is a movie about giant robots.....
No better reason to exist. Megatron is frozen the whole time.. what can you expect?
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