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Title: Victory is mine!
Post by: Jaepheth on February 23, 2008, 04:47:18 PM
Let it be known that I have on this day, February 23rd in the year 2008, passed my first Actuary exam.

 :-D
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: ydnamtnediserp on February 23, 2008, 06:02:55 PM
(http://cupcakesforclara.typepad.com/cupcakes_for_clara/images/2007/06/01/congratulations.jpg)
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: dcrog on February 23, 2008, 06:56:47 PM
Congratulations indeed Jaepheth

*Now that I looked it up to see what it was.*
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: ydnamtnediserp on February 23, 2008, 07:13:35 PM
psst.. dcrog.. i did the same thing!
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: dcrog on February 23, 2008, 08:22:11 PM
psst.. dcrog.. i did the same thing!

Well at least we're willing to admit it.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: sociald1077 on February 23, 2008, 08:33:25 PM
Congrats, though I too had to find out what it was :P.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: ydnamtnediserp on February 23, 2008, 08:53:52 PM
Congrats, though I too had to find out what it was :P.

shhh! ;)
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Anyanka_was_framed on February 23, 2008, 11:36:51 PM
Congrats!!

thanks, google and wikipedia!
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: pbsaurus on February 25, 2008, 06:55:26 PM
Kickass dude!  Am I the only one who knew what it was?  Didn't y'alls have to take statistics in college?
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: BizB on February 25, 2008, 07:08:27 PM
I knew, but I wasn't as impress as those who posted above.

Still, j0rb w3ll d0n3.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Crystalmonkey on February 27, 2008, 05:14:25 PM
What are the odds, eh?

Don't answer that!


Grats!
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Novice on February 27, 2008, 11:54:56 PM
Con
Grats!
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Chris on February 28, 2008, 12:18:16 AM
Seriously, what are the odds?
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Jaepheth on February 28, 2008, 02:08:01 AM
It's really hard to say.

The inner workings of how the exam is graded is mostly kept secret.
What is known is that The Society of Actuaries determines a certain pass mark, and the exams meeting that requirement pass.
Exam P consists of 30 multiple choice probability questions with 5 options each, and you have 3 hours in which to complete them. The questions are drawn from a pool of questions. Since the questions are reused from year to year, the probability of getting a specific question right is statistically known. If you draw a lot of easy questions you must answer more of them correctly to pass, or if you draw a lot of hard questions you need to get fewer of them correct.
I'm also told that some questions are being tested and so are thrown into the question pool in order to get the probability of people getting them correct. These questions don't count toward your score, and there's no way to tell it from a question that does count.


But if you assume 30 equally weighted questions with a probability of 1/5 of getting any one right (random guessing) and a 60% needed to pass (18 questions right) then the probability of passing is (1 - the binomial CDF at 17). On the exam, I'd approximate it with a normal distribution and continuity correction with mean 30*1/5 and variance 30*1/5*4/5, but now I can use a spreadsheet with a binomial function, and it tells me that the probability is 1.842*10^-6

Making the odds 542,755 to 1 against.

But if you study enough to make the probability of getting any 1 question correct .5, then the odds improve to about 5 to 1 against
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: ydnamtnediserp on February 28, 2008, 06:05:26 AM
well, there you have it.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: BizB on February 28, 2008, 07:19:25 AM
Math talk!!  You're gunna make Detta get all hot.

e=mc2
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: pbsaurus on February 28, 2008, 04:39:36 PM
Don't get all radical on us.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Dark Shade on February 28, 2008, 09:22:35 PM
Time to prime up for another one of these threads.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Jaepheth on February 29, 2008, 05:38:07 AM
What do you mean?
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: ivan on February 29, 2008, 11:49:34 AM
No. Threads such as this are divisive.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Jaepheth on February 29, 2008, 12:39:30 PM
But they're an integral part of the board's identity.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: ivan on February 29, 2008, 12:50:04 PM
Dude, don't be irrational. We must strive to maintain a positive, well-rounded environment here. Pun threads are but a fraction of the overall content, yet their negative impact is disproportionately lar...

waitaminute... that's not punning -- that's MATH TALK!
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: pbsaurus on February 29, 2008, 01:27:38 PM
It could just be imaginary.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Min on February 29, 2008, 05:53:28 PM
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!  :D

Love it.


I knew what it was, cause I took that test.  And it was fucking hard.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Min on February 29, 2008, 05:54:44 PM
Also, we had a quiz on simplifying radicals the other day.  On the board, in the list of things to do today I put, "Totally Radical Quiz".  They weren't that amused.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: pbsaurus on February 29, 2008, 08:27:53 PM
When you do polar coordinates be sure to tell them that it's one bear of a test.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Dark Shade on March 02, 2008, 06:14:55 AM
Isn't the bear pun thread hibernating? Would it be rational to add both pun threads together? Bear with me here, I hope it won't be too grizzly! I'm in my prime!
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Jaepheth on March 02, 2008, 12:51:13 PM
I would conjecture that it's probably best if the pun threads remained disconnected.

I have a truly marvelous proof of this proposition which this margin is too narrow to contain.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Min on March 02, 2008, 01:04:12 PM
Although the angles are corresponding and the threads are similar, they just are not congruent.  I agree, they should remain as mutually exclusive events.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: pbsaurus on March 03, 2008, 01:44:37 PM
Yes, have sum.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Jaepheth on March 04, 2008, 09:35:37 PM
You know, this thread reminds me of a story I once heard...

There were three medieval kingdoms on the shores of a lake. There was an island in the middle of the lake, over which the kingdoms had been fighting for years. Finally, the three kings decided that they would send their knights out to do battle, and the winner would take the island. The night before the battle, the knights and their squires pitched camp and readied themselves for the fight. The first kingdom had 12 knights, and each knight had five squires, all of whom were busily polishing armor, brushing horses, and cooking food. The second kingdom had twenty knights, and each knight had 10 squires. Everyone at that camp was also busy preparing for battle. At the camp of the third kingdom, there was only one knight, with his squire. This squire took a large pot and hung it from a looped rope in a tall tree. He busied himself preparing the meal, while the knight polished his own armor. When the hour of the battle came, the three kingdoms sent their squires out to fight (this was too trivial a matter for the knights to join in). The battle raged, and when the dust had cleared, the only person left was the lone squire from the third kingdom, having defeated the squires from the other two kingdoms, thus proving that the squire of the high pot and noose is equal to the sum of the squires of the other two sides.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Tprime on March 04, 2008, 10:36:44 PM
Hooray for grade 8 math lessons!
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Demosthenes on March 05, 2008, 10:37:04 AM
Detta should use that in her class.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Min on March 06, 2008, 06:19:45 PM
Actually, it would seem to me that the squire of the high pot and noose is greater than the sum of the squires of the other two sides. 

That would be an obtuse triangle.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: Agent_Tachyon on March 06, 2008, 06:37:17 PM
Mmmm...high pot.
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: BizB on March 06, 2008, 08:37:36 PM
OBTUSE!  Like me!
Title: Re: Victory is mine!
Post by: pbsaurus on March 07, 2008, 01:24:11 PM
Me too, I'm definitely not acute.