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Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« on: November 18, 2008, 06:40:02 AM »

Here are the facts: (would make a rad Tom Clancy game)

1. Pirates have seized a Saudi oil tanker as long as three football fields
2. The Liberian vessel - Sirius Star - is loaded with $100 million worth of crude oil
3. It's hijacked (with 25 crew) by pirates in the Arabian Sea more than 450 nautical miles from the major port of Mombasa, Kenya.
4. The hijacking follows a string of attacks by Somali pirates
5. It's the largest ship pirated. Three times the size of an aircraft carrier.
6. The port on Somalia's northeastern coast has become a pirate haven, and several ships already are being held there as pirates negotiate ransoms.
7. Security specialists are concerned pirates might seize a tanker carrying pressurized liquefied natural gas, or LNG, then blow it up near a civilian target or sell it to terrorists.
8. Navy Admiral Mullenis not surprised pirates could capture such a massive vessel, because they often are lightly manned. But he expressed shock at the pirates' ability to operate so far from shore. "I'm stunned by the range of it," Mullen said. The ship's distance from the coast was "the longest distance I've seen for any of these incidents."
9. The operation suggests the pirates may be expanding their range to avoid the multinational naval patrols plying the Gulf of Aden and the Arabian Sea.
10. Piracy has increased sharply this year, with more than 80 ships attacked off the Somali coast, 36 of them successfully hijacked
11. Fourteen other ships with more than 200 crew members are still being held.
12. The pirates generally are heavily armed, and travel in speedboats equipped with satellite phones and GPS equipment.
13. A mother ship probably would have launched two or more smaller craft, perhaps high-speed inflatable rafts with four to six gunmen in each, said Cyrus Mody, manager of the London-based International Maritime Bureau, which monitors piracy worldwide.
14. After the boats reach their prey, assault-rifle-toting pirates typically throw ladders with hooks onto the ship rails, making a beeline for the bridge to take control of the vessel's nerve center and the engine room.
15. Piracy gained a new level of international attention in September, when a Ukrainian freighter packed with tanks, anti-aircraft guns and other heavy weapons was captured. That freighter is still under pirate control.
16. Warships from the United States, Russia, NATO, India and the European Union soon began steaming toward Somalia's waters. Aircraft now crisscross the skies on reconnaissance missions.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 07:25:41 AM »

Why do these governments who are sending warships want global warming to continue?  That's the question you have to ask yourselves.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2008, 07:51:06 AM »

(would make a rad Tom Clancy game)
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16. Warships from the United States, Russia, NATO, India and the European Union soon began steaming toward Somalia's waters. Aircraft now crisscross the skies on reconnaissance missions.

If it were a Tom Clancy game, they'd have to mix it up a little.
Instead of warships from 5 different global powers, they'd be sending Sam Fisher in a dinghy.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2008, 07:54:34 AM »

If we, or some other power, were to nuke Somalia into oblivion would this put an end to global warming?

Global Warming + Nuclear Winter == even stevens?
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2008, 07:55:26 AM »

Speeding up global warming must have its financial prospects. I understand that global warming may be a natural phenomena, except this time round (since its supposed to have happened numerous times over the last couple of million years), mankind is unnaturally speeding it up?

Would it be as profitable as war itself though?
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2008, 09:46:49 AM »

If you think CO<sub>2</sub> contributes to global warming, and we reduce CO<sub>2</sub> emissions, we will actually freeze the earth.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2008, 10:09:41 AM »

If I was shipping $100 million across the ocean, I'd probably throw in a couple extra bucks for some guards.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2008, 10:26:10 AM »

If I was shipping $100 million across the ocean, I'd probably throw in a couple extra bucks for some guards.

A few machinegunners, snipers, flamethowers...the works...maybe a couple million.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2008, 10:28:03 AM »

flamethowers...

On a ship full of crude oil?  :-o
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2008, 11:02:02 AM »

Why do these governments who are sending warships want global warming to continue?  That's the question you have to ask yourselves.

You know, the obvious implication of the pirates/global warming paradigm has eluded me until I read this post: global warming is anthropogenic after all!

When will we ever learn?
When will we ever learn.

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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2008, 11:24:04 AM »

On a ship full of crude oil?  :-o

Yes.  Flamethrowers. 


hehe
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2008, 12:09:45 AM »

I'd send in a couple of UCAV's with liquid nitrogen guns to sort those stroppy fella's out.

Piracy is so old school. But it kinda rocks.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2008, 04:24:12 AM »

I always believed they are way cooler then ninja's anyway.

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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2008, 12:10:48 AM »

But, pirates can't run up the wall, nor kill a man with their dreadlock.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2008, 03:22:29 AM »

Here is an update. The ramifications of modern piracy are astounding:

1. Until recently Eyl was a remote and rundown Somali fishing outpost of 7 000 people. Due to piracy it is a booming mini-town, awash with dollars and heavily armed young men. New notoriety: piracy capital of the world.
2. About 12 foreign ships are being held hostage in the waters off Eyl, including a Ukrainian vessel loaded with 33 tanks and ammunition, which was hijacked last month.
3. The ships are being closely watched by hundreds of pirates aboard boats equipped with satellite phones and GPS devices. Hundreds more gunmen provide backup on shore, where they incessantly chew the narcotic leaf, qat, and dream of sharing in the huge ransoms that can run into millions of pounds.
4. In a war-ravaged country where life is cheap and hope is rare, each successful hijack brings more young men into the village to seek their fortune at sea.
5. Secondary school students are stopping their education to go to Eyl because they see how their friends have made money.
6. The entire village now depends on the criminal economy. Hastily built hotels provide basic lodging for the pirates, new restaurants serve meals and send food to the ships, while traders provide fuel for the skiffs flitting between the captured vessels.
7. The pirate kingpins commute in new 4x4 vehicles splash their money around. When a ransom is received the gunmen involved in hijacking the particular ship join in the splurge, much to the pleasure of long-time residents.
8. In the region's bigger towns, such as Garowe and Bosasso on the Gulf of Aden coast, a successful hijack is often celebrated with a meal and qat-chewing session at an expensive hotel.
10. One successful pirate based in Garowe, Abshir Salad, said: "First we look to buy a nice house and car. Then we buy guns and other weapons. The rest of the money we use to relax."
11. The pirates appear to have little fear of arrest by the weak administration, who many suspect of involvement in the trade. By spreading the money to local officials, chiefs, relatives and friends, the pirates have created strong logistical and intelligence networks, and avoided the clan-based fighting that affects so much of the rest of the country.
12. And though few believe the pirates when they claim to be eco-warriors or marines defending Somali waters from foreign exploitation, their daringĀ­ and wealth has earned them respect. It has become something of a tradition for successful pirates to take additional wives, marrying them in lavish ceremonies.
13. Naimo (21), from Garowe, said she had attended a wedding last month of the sort "I had never seen before".
"It's true that girls are interested in marrying pirates because they have a lot of money. Ordinary men cannot afford weddings like this," she said.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2008, 10:37:01 AM »

Here is an update. The ramifications of modern piracy are astounding:

1. Until recently Eyl was a remote and rundown Somali fishing outpost of 7 000 people. Due to piracy it is a booming mini-town, awash with dollars and heavily armed young men. New notoriety: piracy capital of the world.
2. About 12 foreign ships are being held hostage in the waters off Eyl, including a Ukrainian vessel loaded with 33 tanks and ammunition, which was hijacked last month.
3. The ships are being closely watched by hundreds of pirates aboard boats equipped with satellite phones and GPS devices. Hundreds more gunmen provide backup on shore, where they incessantly chew the narcotic leaf, qat, and dream of sharing in the huge ransoms that can run into millions of pounds.
4. In a war-ravaged country where life is cheap and hope is rare, each successful hijack brings more young men into the village to seek their fortune at sea.
5. Secondary school students are stopping their education to go to Eyl because they see how their friends have made money.
6. The entire village now depends on the criminal economy. Hastily built hotels provide basic lodging for the pirates, new restaurants serve meals and send food to the ships, while traders provide fuel for the skiffs flitting between the captured vessels.
7. The pirate kingpins commute in new 4x4 vehicles splash their money around. When a ransom is received the gunmen involved in hijacking the particular ship join in the splurge, much to the pleasure of long-time residents.
8. In the region's bigger towns, such as Garowe and Bosasso on the Gulf of Aden coast, a successful hijack is often celebrated with a meal and qat-chewing session at an expensive hotel.
10. One successful pirate based in Garowe, Abshir Salad, said: "First we look to buy a nice house and car. Then we buy guns and other weapons. The rest of the money we use to relax."
11. The pirates appear to have little fear of arrest by the weak administration, who many suspect of involvement in the trade. By spreading the money to local officials, chiefs, relatives and friends, the pirates have created strong logistical and intelligence networks, and avoided the clan-based fighting that affects so much of the rest of the country.
12. And though few believe the pirates when they claim to be eco-warriors or marines defending Somali waters from foreign exploitation, their daringĀ­ and wealth has earned them respect. It has become something of a tradition for successful pirates to take additional wives, marrying them in lavish ceremonies.
13. Naimo (21), from Garowe, said she had attended a wedding last month of the sort "I had never seen before".
"It's true that girls are interested in marrying pirates because they have a lot of money. Ordinary men cannot afford weddings like this," she said.

Arrrrrrrrr.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2008, 10:51:11 AM »

Arrrrrrrrr.

It's gaaaarrrrhhhh.   :wink:
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2008, 11:45:56 AM »

It's gaaaarrrrhhhh.   :wink:

Support this claim.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2008, 04:03:51 PM »

My own word is not enough support?
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2008, 08:48:01 PM »

Arrrrrrrrr.

my initials! well, not all those Rs. but two of them! preceded by an A!
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2008, 10:34:15 AM »

In that case, my post was worth the ensuing controversy.
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Re: Pirates - Somali Mutiny
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2008, 09:44:45 PM »

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