Topic: I'm surprised... (Read 7171 times)

Vespertine · « **on:** December 18, 2005, 09:21:37 PM »

With the number of us on this board who really can't stand the Napoleonic little fucker that sits in the oval office, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the recent news stories surrounding this putz. Patriot Act not being renewed with the rubber stamp, Bush being outed about authorizing the NSA to spy within American borders (without a warrant), Bush calling Congress and the news media irresponsible for the above mentioned things. Come on, I know you guys must have some opinions about this stuff.

EDIT: To those of you who support Bush (and every decision he makes), I apologize for the bitterness inherent in the opening of the above paragraph. You guys know that I usually try to be objective in political discussions, but I'm at the point where I'm so frustrated that I feel like I'm starting to lose any objectivity that I may have had.

sociald1077 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 18, 2005, 10:01:28 PM »

I try to keep my Bush rants to a minimum on the internet, do to my current employment. But suffice it to say, I think he is a troll and I hope he gets impeached for what he did with the NSA.

Crystalmonkey · « **Reply #2 on:** December 19, 2005, 01:23:39 AM »

Has anyone seen the show called "Bullshit" featuring Penn and Teller?

They discuss the bible, and the most important thing is probably when they mention that for the faithful, no fact will convince them they are wrong.

There is plenty of evidence that Bush is not just an idiot, he's an evil idiot, but there are still people that say he's doing well.

There is plenty of evidence that disputes a lot of different things, ranging from PETA to WMDs, but there are always going to be people who are going to ignore it, and there are people who are going to twist some facts and hide others.

I suppose it's getting to the point where everyone is just like, "Well that doesn't f*cking surprise me, it's Bush."

Chris · « **Reply #3 on:** December 19, 2005, 01:35:59 AM »

If I may remark, after watching about 10 minutes of one of his addresses, he makes it SO obvious that he is reading something that he did not write, it's not even funny.

Hopefully next election we'll pick the right candidate. I voted for Kerry last time around.

TerrorDronze · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2005, 01:54:43 AM »

Terrordronze for president in 2020

jeee · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2005, 05:58:30 AM »

I trust americans, I do not trust the US government for one bit anymore.

xolik · « **Reply #6 on:** December 19, 2005, 05:25:54 PM »

I'm just hoping that Bush's free ride comes to a sreaming halt in 2006. Here's to hoping the Democrats gain control over either the House or the Senate.

scribcake · « **Reply #7 on:** December 20, 2005, 10:50:55 AM »

One "word" about Bush:

Suiciders

BizB · « **Reply #8 on:** December 20, 2005, 01:42:22 PM »

I won't defend Bush, but I will mention that what he authorized in the NSA was not done without the knowledge and full consent of several Senate committees.

I couldn't agree with xolik any more strongly. The best government is a government in total gridlock. Ultimately, if the congress were controlled the Rs and the presidency controled by the Ds and the Senate were controlled by the Green party or the Libertarians, we'd have a perfect couple of years.

TerrorDronze · « **Reply #9 on:** December 21, 2005, 03:52:38 AM »

okay, in regards to bush and all his fun stuff, i've become politically active recently.

www.worldcantwait.org

all of our info is there.

i'm tired and don't feel like typing anymore, so, peh.

TheJudge · « **Reply #10 on:** December 21, 2005, 07:35:04 AM »

Very nice

Chris · « **Reply #11 on:** December 21, 2005, 01:51:21 PM »

I don't think playing music really loud on the night of the State of the Union Address will do anything. I'm pretty sure we're just going to have to wait it out.

The only thing I keep asking myself is, "Why the fuck did anyone vote for him again?"

TheJudge · « **Reply #12 on:** December 21, 2005, 01:53:06 PM »

Quote from: Chris

I don't think playing music really loud on the night of the State of the Union Address will do anything.

Don't be so sure. It's a message to other Americans, which is really who you need to reach in the end.

GenStyx · « **Reply #13 on:** December 21, 2005, 09:58:21 PM »

Quote from: TheJudge

Quote from: Chris
I don't think playing music really loud on the night of the State of the Union Address will do anything.

Don't be so sure. It's a message to other Americans, which is really who you need to reach in the end.

I know I shouldn't doubt in the power of popular will and the American public...but they are pretty stupid. They aren't enlightened enough to understand much that goes on and it makes it worse when they are constantly spoon fed poor information. Garbage like Fox News. Bah!

Lately I've been finding the Republican/Democrat duality to be inept in providing well for the public which it is supposed to serve. I'm not fond a dualistic thinking anyway. It is too limiting, but that is enough rant for now.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #14 on:** December 27, 2005, 04:08:01 PM »

I was in Hungary and everyone we met hated the dude. We of course told them all we didn't vote for him either time. The day we went to Vienna, Arnie was all over the news for not granting clemency to Tookie.

Ronjun · « **Reply #15 on:** January 02, 2006, 10:58:01 AM »

He, newsflash: 3/4 of the world hate the dude...

I think it has to do with the foreing policy of "preemptive striking" and trying to sell it as "freedom endowing crusade" of sorts...

And no, I still dont' get how he could be reelected...

BizB · « **Reply #16 on:** January 03, 2006, 10:12:18 AM »

Our alternative was a pompous pontificating holier than thou career politician with less personality than AlGore who had once served in Viet Nam.

Demosthenes · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2006, 10:32:46 AM »

Speak for yourself. I voted for Badnarik.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #18 on:** January 03, 2006, 01:33:23 PM »

I voted for some chap named Peter J. Shepherd

xolik · « **Reply #19 on:** January 03, 2006, 02:41:07 PM »

Quote from: BizB

Our alternative was a pompous pontificating holier than thou career politician with less personality than AlGore who had once served in Viet Nam.

Whoh, whoh...wait a minute. Kerry served in Viet Nam? Why wasn't this ever brought up during the election?

BizB · « **Reply #20 on:** January 03, 2006, 04:39:32 PM »

Quote from: xolik

Quote from: BizB
Our alternative was a pompous pontificating holier than thou career politician with less personality than AlGore who had once served in Viet Nam.

Whoh, whoh...wait a minute. Kerry served in Viet Nam? Why wasn't this ever brought up during the election?

I think they kept it under wraps because he refused to release ALL of his navy records.

Peter J. Shepherd for GOATUS!

GOATUS???
(let the fun begin)

pbsaurus · « **Reply #21 on:** January 03, 2006, 05:01:11 PM »

At least you didn't dub me GOATSE of the US...

hackess · « **Reply #22 on:** January 03, 2006, 08:35:30 PM »

Quote from: pbsaurus

At least you didn't dub me GOATSE of the US...

It's incredibly tempting to change your title...

pbsaurus · « **Reply #23 on:** January 04, 2006, 01:23:18 PM »

Go for it! That would be hilarious

Dark Shade · « **Reply #24 on:** January 04, 2006, 03:11:44 PM »

Quote from: pbsaurus

Go for it! That would be hilarious

I'm tempted, but I'll let Cat do it.

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