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Title: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: AppleJax on June 26, 2008, 06:16:27 PM
I try not to get caught up in all the usual flaming that occurs during political seasons, I mean everyone has flaws, right? However this grabbed my attention.
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http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/06/mccain-reps-com.html

"During the 2008 presidential race, John McCain's online team has often used web video to get the candidate's major campaign themes out onto the internet.

But an offhand verbal riposte by one of the members of that team has turned into a viral video that's providing just the kind of attention they don't want. It's reviving the idea that the Republican presidential candidate is clueless when it comes to technology."
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I know that computer illiteracy this isn't uncommon among the older generations, although it is worrisome in a US president.




Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: BizB on June 26, 2008, 07:20:51 PM
Why?

I don't want my president wasting time on the webernet and he sure as hell better not be usening emale as a means of communication!
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: 12AX7 on June 26, 2008, 07:46:50 PM
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Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: 12AX7 on June 26, 2008, 07:56:25 PM
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Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: Vespertine on June 26, 2008, 09:14:18 PM
Dude, you really hate Obama.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: 12AX7 on June 26, 2008, 10:00:18 PM
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Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: Wunderkind on June 26, 2008, 10:35:38 PM
I know that computer illiteracy this isn't uncommon among the older generations, although it is worrisome in a US president.

Why?

Not to be short, but I can't find anything about the President's duties that remotely require him to have technological literacy. Perhaps you can explain why you feel this way.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: The_FOO on June 26, 2008, 10:46:53 PM
He should at least understand what a large segment of his constituency does with a majority of their time. Either at work or at play.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: MISTER MASSACRE on June 27, 2008, 08:09:34 AM
If anything I think McCain should stay away from more technology. Things like microphones and tv cameras.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: xolik on June 27, 2008, 09:37:43 AM
I wouldn't vote for Obama with your vote.


I wouldn't vote for Obama with a ten foot voting lever.


I don't hate him; I just don't know him, and what I have learned, I do not like.




clearly you are racist yes that must be it.

NObama '08 - Keep the Change
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: AppleJax on June 27, 2008, 09:47:34 AM
Why?

Not to be short, but I can't find anything about the President's duties that remotely require him to have technological literacy. Perhaps you can explain why you feel this way.

To echo The_FOO : It just seems to me that the computer is such a fundamental tool in America's society, that a president should have a pretty good grasp of at least the basics.

I may be alone here, but I feel that computer illiteracy is a sign that McCain just doesn't have a grasp today's culture and I don't believe that he would properly represent me and my generation.

That is of course, if they aliens don't come down and enslave us all next year.



Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: 12AX7 on June 27, 2008, 09:48:32 AM
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Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: AppleJax on June 27, 2008, 09:54:55 AM
So to make a big deal that a 70 year old dude doesnt have a myspace page and isnt on AIM all the time is sorta ridiculous.

John McCain's Myspace:

http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.addToFavorite&friendID=391018445&public=0

and hes a virgo.  :-)

I like him more already.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: 12AX7 on June 27, 2008, 10:03:14 AM
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Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: sociald1077 on June 27, 2008, 12:48:16 PM
To echo The_FOO : It just seems to me that the computer is such a fundamental tool in America's society, that a president should have a pretty good grasp of at least the basics.

I may be alone here, but I feel that computer illiteracy is a sign that McCain just doesn't have a grasp today's culture and I don't believe that he would properly represent me and my generation.

That is of course, if they aliens don't come down and enslave us all next year.

I don't know if I want a 70 year old man who "understands" the younger generations. Accepting and open to it, yes I want that. But I don't think Kirk needs to know exactly how the Enterprise-E works to be able to captain it in battle.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: xolik on June 27, 2008, 01:16:10 PM
see MKKKain doesn't have a facebook profile clearly hes the inferior candidate oh barack youre soooooo dreamy
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: MISTER MASSACRE on June 27, 2008, 01:25:10 PM
I vote for candidates based which one I'd most like to have a beer with and if we got drunk enough well who knows i mean I wouldn't chew my own arm off to get away from obamanana

edit: sleeping with McCrohn would be like doing a grandpa and that just SUCKED SUCKS
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: xolik on June 27, 2008, 01:39:39 PM
baracks big black caucus.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: AppleJax on June 27, 2008, 02:27:10 PM
see MKKKain doesn't have a facebook profile clearly hes the inferior candidate oh barack youre soooooo dreamy

McCain's facebook: http://www.facebook.com/johnmccain?ref=s

but Obama's is waaay better.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: xolik on June 27, 2008, 02:59:50 PM
McCain's facebook: http://www.facebook.com/johnmccain?ref=s

but Obama's is waaay better.

First mkkkain didn't have a facebook profile now he does what a flipflopper
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: The_FOO on June 28, 2008, 01:44:57 AM
First mkkkain didn't have a facebook profile now he does what a flipflopper


+1 Funny
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: Wunderkind on June 29, 2008, 01:34:01 PM
I don't know if I want a 70 year old man who "understands" the younger generations. Accepting and open to it, yes I want that. But I don't think Kirk needs to know exactly how the Enterprise-E works to be able to captain it in battle.

sociald beat me to it. His ability to use the internet and all of it's social outlets, and his ability to be aware of it and the fact that it is used by a the majority of citizens, seem to stand as two separate items in my mind.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: 12AX7 on June 29, 2008, 04:34:34 PM
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Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: livingeek on June 30, 2008, 01:12:57 PM
I don't think he should learn to use a computer.  Country would sink even further once he discovered the free porn. 
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: Demosthenes on June 30, 2008, 05:48:02 PM
Well, so far we've only heard what others speculate that he may or may not know. For all I know, Demo could be John McCain. Nothing's told me yet whether or not he actually understands/uses/is aware of IT technology.

Hey!   :x
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: 12AX7 on June 30, 2008, 11:32:35 PM
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Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: xolik on July 01, 2008, 02:38:41 PM
It's me. I'm da nominee in da OP.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: jeee on July 16, 2008, 04:58:38 PM
Didn't one of your presidential candidates invent the internet ?

If he joins McCain the even it out.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: xolik on July 17, 2008, 09:24:32 AM
McCain\Gore?


my head asplode
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: CheesyGirl on July 24, 2008, 08:13:08 AM
Should he know how to use one? Probably, I suppose. Is it detrimental to a presidency? Probably not. There are lots of other, more valid reasons not to vote for McCain. I'm sure a president has loads of technology advisors equipped to handle any technology-driven requirements of the job. However I do think the poster who brought up that he cannot relate to our generation made a good point. But again, so many other reasons not to vote for the man, not sure this one rates that high.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: BizB on July 24, 2008, 09:03:24 AM
Reasons like.... HE'S NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/citizen.asp
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: 12AX7 on July 24, 2008, 10:11:29 AM
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Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: Demosthenes on July 24, 2008, 10:14:12 AM
If McCain doesn't learn to use a computer, how is he going to find Homoerotic A-Team Fan Fiction?
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: BizB on July 24, 2008, 10:15:29 AM
He's a damn foreigner trying to steal the election.  Who cares where he gets his homoerotic A-Team fan fiction?
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: dcrog on July 24, 2008, 10:47:22 AM
He was most certainly "natural born". He surely wasn't hatched.

How do you know he wasn't a C section?
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: sociald1077 on July 24, 2008, 05:10:08 PM
Reasons like.... HE'S NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/citizen.asp

I'm gonna have to challenge you on this one. McCain was born on a Naval Station in Panama, and Military bases are considered to be U.S. sovereign land.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/05/john_mccains_birthplace.html  (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/05/john_mccains_birthplace.html)
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: Min on July 24, 2008, 07:53:10 PM
You can't challenge snopes.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: ydnamtnediserp on July 24, 2008, 09:44:55 PM
i don't generally post in these types of threads, but my brother was telling me about this a couple weeks ago and i found it fairly interesting.

according to http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html?_r=1&oref=slogin :

The law conferred citizenship on children of American parents born in the Canal Zone after 1904, and it made John McCain a citizen just before his first birthday. But the law came too late, Professor Chin argued, to make Mr. McCain a natural-born citizen.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: Dark Lord Liznit on July 26, 2008, 02:54:27 PM

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It's preposterous that a technicality like this can make a difference in an advanced democracy.

All I have to say is simply, I agree with this statement by Professor Chin whole heartedly.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: CheesyGirl on July 27, 2008, 09:24:27 AM
All I have to say is simply, I agree with this statement by Professor Chin whole heartedly.

While I disagree with the idea that he is not a "natural born citizen" since his parents were in the military and therefore, he SHOULD be considered a natural born citizen no matter what military base he was born on... I don't think it's preposterous at all. If we change the constitution to suit McCain, we are on a slippery slope. You never know, you might wake up one day and find Arnold Schwarzennager (sp?) president of the U.S. and that scares the shit out of me. Even moreso than having another republican in office who supports the war.  :lol:
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: BizB on July 27, 2008, 09:41:20 AM
Would you prefer a Democrat that would leave Iraq in defeat for political gain?
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: Dark Lord Liznit on July 27, 2008, 10:55:16 AM
While I disagree with the idea that he is not a "natural born citizen" since his parents were in the military and therefore, he SHOULD be considered a natural born citizen no matter what military base he was born on... I don't think it's preposterous at all. If we change the constitution to suit McCain, we are on a slippery slope. You never know, you might wake up one day and find Arnold Schwarzennager (sp?) president of the U.S. and that scares the shit out of me. Even moreso than having another republican in office who supports the war.  :lol:

I support the war in Iraq. It's one of the main reasons I'm talking to my air force recruiter (Besides free college, woot).
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: CheesyGirl on July 27, 2008, 05:16:50 PM
Would you prefer a Democrat that would leave Iraq in defeat for political gain?

I'm not sure what you mean by "defeat" since by definition of the Iraq war, we really aren't there to "win" or "lose" because what exactly are we gaining over there if we "win"? But yes, I'd definitely rather have a democrat in office. I don't expect someone to pull out willy-nilly. But it's time to start taking the steps to get us out of there. I'm tired of spending my money on a needless, senseless war.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: RelandR on July 27, 2008, 05:31:35 PM
Would you prefer a Democrat that would leave Iraq in defeat for political gain?
At this point I would prefer just about ANYone that would put an end to the nonsense in Iraq regardless of their political ideology.

The point where any humanitarian sub-motive argument might fly is long past and when you factor in all the lies coupled with the obvious good-old-boy profiteering schemes that dominate the whole affair, I think this campaign is one of the biggest hoaxes ever.

Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: sociald1077 on July 27, 2008, 05:42:27 PM
I'm tired of spending my money on a needless, senseless war.

Needless, senseless war is one of the best ways to keep a population under the thumb of the government. Fear is so powerful.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: jimmi on July 28, 2008, 09:50:17 PM
He finally got rid of that fucking growth on the right side of his face.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: xolik on July 29, 2008, 02:41:39 PM
Enrique Iglesias?

Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: Vespertine on July 29, 2008, 03:06:27 PM
<snip>I don't expect someone to pull out willy-nilly. <snip>
Very true.  I never expect it to be willy-nilly either.  That way lies having to do laundry and possibly having to wash your hair.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: jimmi on July 29, 2008, 04:55:00 PM
(http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7Beaa7be4a-1752-42cb-8a98-4f8dd4974d67%7D.gif)
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: BizB on July 29, 2008, 05:05:01 PM
(http://thepatriot.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/obamaflake.jpg)
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: jimmi on July 29, 2008, 05:13:33 PM
Haha, that's pretty witty. 'Full of hope and change'.

=P
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: xolik on July 29, 2008, 05:17:43 PM
(http://thepatriot.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/obamaflake.jpg)

That damn, dirty racist should be using chocolate milk instead.  :x
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: BizB on July 29, 2008, 06:03:26 PM
Haha, that's pretty witty. 'Full of hope and change'.

=P
Ok... why emphasize the "change" part?  I thought that was funny because the box is lacking anything of real substance.  Why, exactly, did you find it witty?
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: xolik on July 29, 2008, 06:23:36 PM
If I had a cereal box advertising that it was full of change, there had damn well be an avalanche of quarters falling into my bowl.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: jimmi on July 29, 2008, 06:40:46 PM
Because he's black.
Title: Re: SHould McCain Learn to Use a Computer?
Post by: xolik on July 29, 2008, 06:53:30 PM
see white people, they be all campaigning like this *doo doo doo* but tha brothas, they be all campaigning like this *dee dee dee*