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Racial Profiling!
« on: July 15, 2002, 11:32:39 PM »

Is it just me, or has it now gotten to the point whenever there is a black person being pulled over, or being questioned by the police, the first thing they'll try to exclaim is "RACIAL PROFILING!!!"? I mean, Michael Jackson isn't even black anymore, and he's trying to say that "The Man" at Sony Recording Studios is raciest. How can you say that when you're no longer black. He would have to go around thinking "Mike is black, let's not 'be nice' to him!" in order for him to really "racial profile".

And that kid getting beaten out in the Western U.S., sure, the force most likely was not needed, but I can bet he wasn't given that beat down because he was black.

Let's not forget about the police dog that was trained to "only attack" black people. Dogs can only see certain colors, and personally, I think you'd have to be crazy to think someone is going to train any animal to attack one group of people from another.

I believe it's time for some people to let go of things that happened back when Martin Luther King Jr. was alive and realize that it's been long over. Make up some new excuses.
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2002, 11:55:50 PM »

I totally agree with you. I mean, I can understand it to a point, but when you have a man that is not black (at least, not any more), like Michael Jackson, getting support from Rev. Alan Sharpton, Johnnie Cochran, etc. and telling the world that a man is racist and is conspiring against the entire African-American race, just because he didn't get an acceptable amount of advertisment for his CD or whatever, is just unbelievable. I'm not saying that all accusations of racism are false, I'm just saying that some people are taking it a little bit too far.
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Re: Good point...
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2002, 12:14:40 AM »

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getting support from Rev. Alan Sharpton, Johnnie Cochran


You have no idea how much I dislike hearing the name "Al Sharpton". Given I live close to New York City, he's always in the news around here. I remember a while back he decided that he and some of his followers would block on of the highways in southern New Jersey because of some other racial issue with the NJ State police. On the radio stating New Jersey 101.5 they were talking about ways to get Sharpton off of the highway by using food as bait. I'm honestly supprised no one called in with "fried chicken". There was fluff, but no fried chicken to fuel the fire.

That man is never going to be elected president because people would not want to put up with his garbage of racial prolfiling. And when he loses he can claim that 88% of all Americans are raciest because only 12% voted for him.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2002, 01:57:27 AM »

Well, what can I say? He is just one of those people that we have to put up with. I mean, his intentions might be good, but they way he carries them out is over the top.

P.S. You are right about him claiming that 88% of America is racist if we don't vote for him. That's exactly what he would say.
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Racial Profiling!
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2002, 08:22:35 AM »

Personally, I judge people based on their actions, nothing else. And I'll say this about Micheal Jackson: He's a fake and he's mentally unstable. Not because of his skin color. Not because he's a celebrity craving for attention and money. The first thing that really pissed me off about him is the song "Don't matter if your balck or white". Well, if it doesn't matter, why the hell did he have to make such a big fuss about becoming a white dude in the first place? And the guy sleeps in some sort of coffin/chamber because he's affraid of germs. The guy is sick! He needs medical attention! And now he's using the old "racism" argument because his records aren't selling??? Newsflash Mike: The CD Sucks!

At one point in time, people in general were racist. It's a fact and it's part of our history. Shame on our ancesters for being so shallow. Things have changed now. Although there will always be some racist people in the world, the majority has learned that skin color is really not a big deal anymore. So why not just drop the whole "racism" excuse that now get's used whenever someone is faced with reality? Racism goes both ways. I know some black guys that hate white guys and vice versa. I think they're all dumb for not letting this go and enjoy the true and unique experience that life has to offer.
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Racial Profiling!
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2002, 12:17:56 PM »

When you say "black guys hate some white guys", no one really seems to care. However, if someone were to say "white guys hate some black guys" and someone like Al Sharpton heard that, he would throw a fit. It never occurs to him that maybe "black guys" was just a pronoun to describe three mean people that just happened to be black. Now, of course, some people that just read that may think, "MY GOD! NOT ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE MEAN!" - it was literally an example, we know for a fact that not all black people are mean. I know a lot of nice "black people" if you want to call them that.

The thing is there still are also a lot of double standards around. If that kid was white and he got a beating by the police, no one would really care, and most likely we would have not heard about it. But, since the kid was black, the police must have beaten him because of his skin color, and not because of a "bad day" or some of his actions that he took to provoke such force from the police.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2002, 03:56:15 PM »

the truth is that rascism is still embedded into society.  while its a lot better than 40 years ago, its still there, although people aren't as open about it because it is scorned by the public as a whole. even some that think they are not rascist still sometimes have their judgements affected subconciously.

another note is that some blacks are as rascist or more rascist than many whites.  they think that because of past crimes against them they can do it back.  they just "get away with it" because the public ignores it when black do it, but not when whites do.  because they are afraid to be accused of being accused themselves.  but, as my mother always said  :wink:

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2002, 04:03:52 PM »

Have you seen american history x?

"I hate that it's cool to be black these days"

a couple of days ago.. my (white) friends were talking about how great black people were.. and about how most white people are racist.. uh.. they were racist, against themselves
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2002, 07:21:42 PM »

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Damnit, I thought that guy on aim was really a dumbass! and I was right
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2002, 08:47:18 PM »

Racism (even if you guys don't belive me) still goes on in America EVERYDAY. It is still done becuase of ignorance and intolerence, but it is also done for other reasons such as "Boosting Egos" "Filling in Insecurities" "Scape-goating" and "Justifying social behavior". Now the KKK doesn't parade down streets and burn crosses in front of peoples houses anymore and noone will no more segregated bathrooms and sinks but there is ALOT of every day racist things that go on not against blacks particularly but against ALL races by ALL different races. Why do they only point out racism towards blacks, simple MONEY and Power. If noone has noticed lately Their is a whoooooole lot more black people than whites in the united states. Atleast an extra million last time I checked. Unfortunatly alot of them lack the security to obey authority headed by a "White man" So Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson step in, accuse goverment and businesses of racism then the insecure lemmings follow foot boosting the support of the both of them solely on the fact they they are the same color and they make a "GOOD" but flawed point. Unfortunatly only a "SMALL" percentage of Racism is directed towards "African-Americans". In the commotion they raise over a grain of sand they forget every other race including: Asians, Jews(not a race but a religeon), Croatians, Serbians, All other middleeastern races, the people of india(who are experiencing far worse racial treatment from both blacks and whites) among a whole shit load of other races.

Why did I bring this up? I have no idea, I don't think it will make sense to anyone who has not been around enough racial groups to understand how they all feel about one another. But it is true(some of it) the lemming may be flawed but that is what it looks like to me.

What happened to Michael Jackson was not racist, it was "Business at its finest". They want what Michael Jackson has (the beatles catalog) and yes they did sabatoge his record "a little" I heard about that A LONG time ago when  the record first came out. Why is it in the news now then? Michaels only hope of selling the record now (since yeah it sucked horribly) is to gain "Black-Cred". That is the only way he can save his career, Use the "race card" to boost sales for his album, Their are enough Black people to boost him to atleast 1 time platinum so he needs them bad!

Thats what I think, I have no idea what the hell I am typing, The racism issue is the only thing I am actually opinionated about so I tend to go into rants about it. Peace.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2002, 09:16:55 PM »

Actually, why I got to your last paragraph that you wrote there, LFD, it gave me another idea.

We know how much attention racial profiling gets. He knows it too. His sales weren't doing to well, so he had to figure out some other way to boost sales. Why not cry "racial profiling" and get Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton on his side? They're both always in the public eye. Hell, Jesse Jackson and Michael Jackson just might be related.
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2002, 11:32:28 PM »

Quote from: KoRNexpressor(error)


Damnit, I thought that guy on aim was really a dumbass! and I was right


wow, if you're making fun of me, eat a dick, because i wasn't that guy.. and it's a good movie
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2002, 09:20:44 PM »

as robin williams has said: "in order for michael jackson to call someone racist, he must first choose a race."  damn right![/quote]
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2002, 03:29:45 PM »

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Now the KKK doesn't parade down streets and burn crosses in front of peoples houses anymore


actually what's frightening is that they do, a couple times a year.
more often they apply for a permit to parade, get denied, and make a big stink about THAT.. but in a few places the marches do happen, with police escorts and throngs of protesters.
the ACLU has defended them under the right of 'freedom of speech'...

"I despise what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

I dunno sometimes.....
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2002, 04:47:46 PM »

Keith, just register an account.
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2002, 10:03:14 PM »

i recently had some distant relatives from california visit; two of which are of lebanese descent, but third generation americans. we all ate dinner together (fam reunion) one night at a restaurant in niagra falls where as i understand they were both pulled over at airports. they dont wear turbins and are both cleaned shaved, yet one was pulled out of line for searching and the other removed from a flight b/c some nazi grandma felt uncomfortable.

whada ya know? no shoe bombs.

racial profiling is alive and well, at least in mass transportation terminals.

as for michael jackson, thats bullshit.

and then there are all the these goddamn complaints about political correctness and how little babies and 80 year old women are given full body searches.once again, bullshit.

uncle sam really really has to shape up security and drop the other bullshit.

if they see osama walk out of a starbucks and onto a plane by all means drop the fucker. otherwise, laissez faire
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2002, 10:09:35 PM »

They need some form to follow. They can't think, "Well, this person is not that old, so he has to be searched" and then let older people go unsearched. They will use those weaknesses against us once again. If it was fair and balanced, it would not be an issue at all.

Take a look in the Middle East. They have 13-year-old kids wanting to blow themselves up for "the cause". So what would be from stopping them and getting some kids to kill themselves on planes if there are crazy ones out there already? Not much would prevent them. The same goes with old people as well.

Everyone has to be treated as though they are all a threat to homeland security. Then there can be no complaints from one group of people, but instead the people as a whole.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2002, 06:02:06 AM »

I read somewhere that Al Sharpton referred to Conraid Bain (The father on Different Strokes) as the only non-racist white guy in the 80's.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2002, 08:24:37 PM »

That'd make Sharpton a big ol' racist.
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2002, 10:54:36 PM »

Why can't white people say the 'n' word?  I see nothing wrong with it if used in the proper context.  That is, not in a derogatory manner.

And, who revoked our 'n' word priveliges?  Not like I use it that often, or to describe someone.  If I can't say it, I demand it be taken out of all lierature.  Huck Finn needs to go down river with 'N' Word Jim, and Lennie Small needs to visit the 'n' word stable buck in Of Mice and Men.
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2002, 09:04:11 AM »

I have no problem using the N word. It' sno different than swearing. I don't swear because I want to insult God, I swear because it's a habbit and because it emphasizes my mood. But I choose when and where to swear. Same thing for the N word. I'm not using to insult anyone. And those who know me undurstand that. Those who don't know me will not hear me say it because I am aware that some would be offended by it and I respect other people.
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2002, 12:03:28 PM »

Exactly.  It's just another word.  And, just as any word, it can be used improperly.  It's up to the user to speak it correctly.

OR ELSE.
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