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Author Topic: For people that read Lord of the Flies  (Read 8250 times)

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Re: For people that read Lord of the Flies
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2007, 01:30:26 AM »
Quote from: Apollyon on January 19, 2007, 01:35:43 AM
But who do you debate with I mean, I don't suppose you get that opportunity often.
You're kidding right?  You can't throw a meatball without hitting at least 4 creationists (a.k.a. Christians).
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Re: For people that read Lord of the Flies
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2007, 11:10:01 AM »
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Re: For people that read Lord of the Flies
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2007, 04:20:29 PM »


In related news, Kent Hovind is going to jail for tax evasion. I'm sure he'll find more evidence of people being descended from apes!
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Re: For people that read Lord of the Flies
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2007, 06:42:42 PM »
I'm seeing quite a few threads here, regardless of original topic, veering into XTIANS = LOL for some reason. Seems to be common amoung internet forums these days.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2007, 06:45:35 PM by xolik »
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Re: For people that read Lord of the Flies
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2007, 10:10:56 PM »
Well I don't think it's fair to lump all Christians into the nutso Creationist catagory. Much of my family is Christian, and I was a while back, yet I wouldn't say that any of them (other than my mad as a hatter Grandpa) are Creationists. Even when I was Christian myself there was a limit to how much bullshit I could swallow, and I drew the line at a 6000 year old earth.
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Re: For people that read Lord of the Flies
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2007, 10:20:04 PM »
Quote from: Agent_Tachyon on January 20, 2007, 10:10:56 PM
Well I don't think it's fair to lump all Christians into the nutso Creationist catagory. Much of my family is Christian, and I was a while back, yet I wouldn't say that any of them (other than my mad as a hatter Grandpa) are Creationists. Even when I was Christian myself there was a limit to how much bullshit I could swallow, and I drew the line at a 6000 year old earth.
But isn't the most basic definition of a Christian someone who believes that God is the creator of heaven and earth and mankind (and everything else)?  I guess I don't really understand how someone could consider themself a Christian without believing in creation.
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Re: For people that read Lord of the Flies
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2007, 11:43:21 PM »
Quote from: Vespertine on January 20, 2007, 10:20:04 PM
But isn't the most basic definition of a Christian someone who believes that God is the creator of heaven and earth and mankind (and everything else)?
Nope.  By that definition Jews would be Christians.  I'm pretty sure Christianity has something to do with that second half of the bible.
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Re: For people that read Lord of the Flies
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2007, 12:35:00 AM »
Quote from: BizB on January 20, 2007, 11:43:21 PM
Nope.  By that definition Jews would be Christians.  I'm pretty sure Christianity has something to do with that second half of the bible.
Oh yeah...DUH!!

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Despite my amnesia, it's still a valid question with regard to Christans and the wider group of "God believers".
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Re: For people that read Lord of the Flies
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2007, 06:33:08 AM »
Quote from: Vespertine on January 20, 2007, 10:20:04 PM
I guess I don't really understand how someone could consider themself a Christian without believing in creation.
Why can't one believe God created all, and did it with 'natural' processes? I've never grasped why one idea should totally negate another. Fundies attribite natural processes today with acts of God (for example; A.I.D.S.); why couldn't it have been the same in the beginning? As a matter of fact, the "Great Flood" was a natural process.
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Re: For people that read Lord of the Flies
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2007, 01:39:40 PM »
Evolution doesn't explain away creation.
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Re: For people that read Lord of the Flies
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2007, 08:39:50 PM »
Quote from: 12AX7 on January 21, 2007, 06:33:08 AM
Why can't one believe God created all, and did it with 'natural' processes? I've never grasped why one idea should totally negate another. Fundies attribite natural processes today with acts of God (for example; A.I.D.S.); why couldn't it have been the same in the beginning? As a matter of fact, the "Great Flood" was a natural process.


That was my view for all the years I was a Christian. It's impossible take everything in the Bible literally (otherwise God is part vine and I'm supposed to literally eat his words, which enters Breatharianism and by that point you've lost what greasy leftovers of credibility you had left), and there's no reason to think that Genesis is any exception.

Of course, after a while I was doublethinking and said 'eh fuck it' and tossed the baby Jesus out with the bathwater.
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