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• (January 12, 2023, 01:18:11 AM)

[10001110101]

I believe I have a sleep disorder, 26 y/o male, still can't hold down a job for more than 6-12 months without inevitably sleeping in despite having up to five alarm clocks.

I've been this way since I was a young child (7 or 8 years old), never truly able to reliably wake up before 11 am...  I have used everything, including schedule II medications, to combat this...

The only thing I haven't done is get a sleep study, but I'm skeptical about it, especially considering I seem to sleep for somewhat normal hours, and have no trouble falling asleep (at around 3-4 am that is) and no insomnia (except for a brief period when I quit smoking).  So I think my actual sleep, is fine, just that my circadian clock, is off.  And I think in a sleep study situation, I would probably never truly sleep as I normally do, for example, when I have a "guest" stay in the same room with me, I don't really sleep normally, it takes me a lot longer than normal to fall asleep and I sleep very lightly, so I awake usually whenever the sun comes up or I hear a noise or the other person wakes up, rolls over, etc... far before my alarm does.

I do believe that I have a very strong power of will, but it seems that I often wake up and fall back asleep if I get up before 10 am, without even knowing it... As if I'm sleepwalking.  Sometimes I will "wake up" turn off all of the alarms, and fall back to sleep with absolutely no recollection of the event (at least I assume that's what happened as they are all turned off when I wake up) or I will sleep straight through them, and awake several hours later to at least three of them blaring. (I use a combination of buzzers, beeps, radios, etc)

I'm often in a daze for an hour or two after I wake up so I have to set my alarm for several hours before I have to do something, maybe hit the snooze button once (more than once and it's doubtful I'll make it anywhere before noon).

It's also interesting to note that no matter how sleep deprived I am, or how exhausted I am from my daily activities, I cannot sleep before 3-4am... EVER.  If I do happen to fall asleep at say 9 or 10pm, I will awake about 1 to 1.5 hours later unable to sleep until about 6-7 am.

I've done some research and there is some mentioning something called Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder/Syndrome, does anyone know anything about this, is it legitimate?  If anyone has had any kind of similar experience, please relate it, as well as what you did/are doing to overcome it, I was recently fired from an important job and it has sent me into despair about the situation.

I thought I had actually overcome it a few months ago, but eventually, it seems that my biology, or neurology, or psychology, wins.

[BizB]

I had disruptive sleep apnea before I lost 40+ pounds.

I did use a c-pap machine for about 2 years.  That seemed to help with getting a good night's rest and feeling awake and refreshed in the morning.

[Demosthenes]

I believe I have a sleep disorder, 26 y/o male, still can't hold down a job for more than 6-12 months without inevitably sleeping in despite having up to five alarm clocks.

I've been this way since I was a young child (7 or 8 years old), never truly able to reliably wake up before 11 am...  I have used everything, including schedule II medications, to combat this...

The only thing I haven't done is get a sleep study, but I'm skeptical about it, especially considering I seem to sleep for somewhat normal hours, and have no trouble falling asleep (at around 3-4 am that is) and no insomnia (except for a brief period when I quit smoking).  So I think my actual sleep, is fine, just that my circadian clock, is off.  And I think in a sleep study situation, I would probably never truly sleep as I normally do, for example, when I have a "guest" stay in the same room with me, I don't really sleep normally, it takes me a lot longer than normal to fall asleep and I sleep very lightly, so I awake usually whenever the sun comes up or I hear a noise or the other person wakes up, rolls over, etc... far before my alarm does.

I do believe that I have a very strong power of will, but it seems that I often wake up and fall back asleep if I get up before 10 am, without even knowing it... As if I'm sleepwalking.  Sometimes I will "wake up" turn off all of the alarms, and fall back to sleep with absolutely no recollection of the event (at least I assume that's what happened as they are all turned off when I wake up) or I will sleep straight through them, and awake several hours later to at least three of them blaring. (I use a combination of buzzers, beeps, radios, etc)

I'm often in a daze for an hour or two after I wake up so I have to set my alarm for several hours before I have to do something, maybe hit the snooze button once (more than once and it's doubtful I'll make it anywhere before noon).

It's also interesting to note that no matter how sleep deprived I am, or how exhausted I am from my daily activities, I cannot sleep before 3-4am... EVER.  If I do happen to fall asleep at say 9 or 10pm, I will awake about 1 to 1.5 hours later unable to sleep until about 6-7 am.

I've done some research and there is some mentioning something called Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder/Syndrome, does anyone know anything about this, is it legitimate?  If anyone has had any kind of similar experience, please relate it, as well as what you did/are doing to overcome it, I was recently fired from an important job and it has sent me into despair about the situation.

I thought I had actually overcome it a few months ago, but eventually, it seems that my biology, or neurology, or psychology, wins.

I have exactly the same sleep disorder.  I've had it all my life.  I've undergone several different sleep studies, tried various prescribed medications, and about the only time I've ever gotten satisfying sleep on a regular basis was when I spent a few years working what amounted to being 2nd shift type hours.

[10001110101]

Well, fuck.

Demosthenes- Have you had an official diagnosis?

[Demosthenes]

Well, fuck.

Demosthenes- Have you had an official diagnosis?

Yup.  Two of them.

[Clear_Runway]

ah, the joys of aging. I like being young.

[Demosthenes]

ah, the joys of aging. I like being young.

I've been dealing with this since I was a child.  It has nothing to do with aging.

[Wunderkind]

Has anyone tried not wearing sunglasses before noon?

It sounds stupid and hokey, but it helps me shift back to the morning shift. I want to go to sleep about 9 pm, so it kills any night life I might want to have, but I can get up in the morning.

[10001110101]

I've been dealing with this since I was a child.  It has nothing to do with aging.

Likewise, if you read the original post, I've had this issue since I can remember... and before I can remember, I was the only kid who slept in on Christmas morning.

[10001110101]

Has anyone tried not wearing sunglasses before noon?

It sounds stupid and hokey, but it helps me shift back to the morning shift. I want to go to sleep about 9 pm, so it kills any night life I might want to have, but I can get up in the morning.

Weird Tingly Feeling.  who even wears sunglasses anymore?

[Socrates]

I have a bifid uvula so have always had a touch of sleep apnea which got worse when I was overweight.  Like Biz losing the weight helped.

[Min]

Whisky Tango Foxtrot.  who even wears sunglasses anymore?

The same people who use the term "reefer".

[Wunderkind]

Whisky Tango Foxtrot.  who even wears sunglasses anymore?

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You silly troll.

On another note, who has a fake sleeping disorder? A sleeping disorder, by definition, is any irregular sleep pattern which interferes with one's daily life. So... do fake sleeping disorders exist?

[Demosthenes]

So... do fake sleeping disorders exist?

You've obviously never met my mother.

[Wunderkind]

You've obviously never met my mother.

Something tells me I don't want to.

I only ask because someone told me once that I don't have a "real" sleeping disorder because my problem is a psychological one. I was wondering if anyone else felt the same way.

EDIT: I have stress induced insomnia. Getting sunlight the morning only doesn't do crap for me on bad days when I'm having anxiety attacks, but it helps set me right again once things calm down, since I tend to want to sleep during the day. I figured I'd throw it out there, knowing nothing about what you've already have and haven't tried.

[Demosthenes]

Something tells me I don't want to.

No.  You defiantly do not.

[pbsaurus]

It's probably the way you're wired.  Adapt by finding flexible employment or employment on a swing shift.  If you speak an Asian language working for a company that does business while the Asian countries are awake would suit you well.

[ivan]

The only sleep disorder I have is not enough of it, and it's entirely my fault. Twenty years ago, my norm was 8-10 hours every night. Now my norm is 5-7. I can cure it by going to bed on time, but I don't. Just part of the whole self-destructive thing I've had since I was a kid.

[Min]

My sleep disorder is called "Mother of two month old baby".  I think I'll grow out of it though.

[ivan]

Yes. And then you'll probably miss it.

[Min]

Indeed.  But I know what causes it and I can create that scenario again.