Topic: 2 Sides... (Read 5363 times)

Arnox · « **on:** April 06, 2010, 09:32:54 PM »

Whenever I see a topic or news article or what have you on government or business actions and/or regulations, I always seem to see 2 major sides of the issue.

First, you have the governments/businesses side of the story saying how what they're doing actually makes common sense and that we need this regulation or rule or that the judgment passed on a criminal is just.

But then, when I see people's opinions on other such forums, on the topics discussed above, the opinons and arguments are opposite. The government is trying to control our lives and that we shouldn't be such tools listening to them and join the right side.

But which side should one take? Most of the time, both present compelling and convincing arguments and it's hard to choose on which side to take.

But what do you guys think of all this?

pbsaurus · « **Reply #1 on:** April 07, 2010, 12:52:21 AM »

There are never just two sides. That's what they want you to believe. Everything is multivariate and requires lengthy analysis. The talking heads have conditioned you into thinking that everything can be reduced to a five second sound byte, but that is just not so. There are not just two parties, there are not just pro and con, it just isn't that simple.

12AX7 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 07, 2010, 04:34:20 AM »

Quote from: pbsaurus on April 07, 2010, 12:52:21 AM

There are never just two sides. That's what they want you to believe. Everything is multivariate and requires lengthy analysis. The talking heads have conditioned you into thinking that everything can be reduced to a five second sound byte, but that is just not so. There are not just two parties, there are not just pro and con, it just isn't that simple.

That. That's a near-perfect explanation there.

What it will always boil down to (should, anyway) is your personal take on the subject AFTER you've researched the entire issue; sans "sides". Almost anything can be argued for, as well as argued against. Run devil_advocate.exe on all sides of each issue before you formulate your own opinion. Never take an answer for an answer. Preheat to 350 degrees. Form patties with mix and place on foil. Serves eight.

Joe Sixpack · « **Reply #3 on:** April 07, 2010, 10:12:36 AM »

When it comes to the gubment, you should always ask yourself "what's the worst way they could abuse this?".

ivan · « **Reply #4 on:** April 07, 2010, 12:16:06 PM »

I'm taking pbSaurus' side on this issue, because the other side is wrong.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #5 on:** April 07, 2010, 01:56:41 PM »

Quote from: ivan on April 07, 2010, 12:16:06 PM

I'm taking pbSaurus' side on this issue, because the other side is wrong.

And my side is directly from Earl Ray so you know it's cubic.

xolik · « **Reply #6 on:** April 07, 2010, 02:49:58 PM »

I can't remember if, on this issue, I'm black or if I'm white.

ivan · « **Reply #7 on:** April 07, 2010, 02:56:07 PM »

Quote from: xolik on April 07, 2010, 02:49:58 PM

I can't remember if, on this issue, I'm black or if I'm white.

As long as you're not Norm from Cheers, you're good.

xolik · « **Reply #8 on:** April 07, 2010, 03:00:28 PM »

I'm more of a "Cliff" guy.

BizB · « **Reply #9 on:** April 07, 2010, 03:54:28 PM »

Totally saw you as a Woody guy.

Woody LOL!

xolik · « **Reply #10 on:** April 07, 2010, 03:55:34 PM »

Quote from: BizB on April 07, 2010, 03:54:28 PM

Totally saw you as a Woody guy.

Woody LOL!

Whatever gave you that impression?

Arnox · « **Reply #11 on:** April 07, 2010, 04:24:59 PM »

Remember, I said two MAJOR sides. I didn't say that there weren't other points of view. But yes, I definitely agree that one must consider both sides at all times. My complaint, however, is that it is sometimes hard to see the real truth. But this is just one of those things in life that we will always deal with so I guess one can't always know the truth.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #12 on:** April 07, 2010, 08:13:47 PM »

Quit using both two and other linear words. Hell even the human mind thinks in three dimensions. Right or left is meaningless when it comes to politics. It's not that simple. Even look at the Libertarian planar representation. They at least give a y axis. But really we need a z axis and probably a brazilian other axes if we were to do a proper analysis. Stupid humans.

Wunderkind · « **Reply #13 on:** April 07, 2010, 08:57:06 PM »

I didn't know an axis could be Brazilian.

I thought they all came from El Salvador.

On Topic: Looking at the two MAJOR sides is narrow minded and stupid. Just because a side is minor does not justify ignoring its presence. Who knows, you might find the truth in one of those other minor sides.

Novice · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2010, 09:05:32 PM »

Quote from: Wunderkind on April 07, 2010, 08:57:06 PM

On Topic: Looking at the two MAJOR sides is narrow minded and stupid.

Not to mention the two "major" sides are usually saying the same stupid shit.

Oh, and everything else everyone else said.

BizB · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2010, 10:35:56 PM »

Brazil is part of the Axis of Evil? Who knew?

12AX7 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 07, 2010, 11:08:15 PM »

Geekforum Mods - "The Axes of Evil"

pbsaurus · « **Reply #17 on:** April 08, 2010, 01:51:04 AM »

Quote from: 12AX7 on April 07, 2010, 11:08:15 PM

Geekforum Mods - "The Axes of Evil"

Live fo sexa eht

The_FOO · « **Reply #18 on:** April 08, 2010, 02:53:50 PM »

Join the Navy!

Vespertine · « **Reply #19 on:** April 08, 2010, 03:15:13 PM »

Is it just me or is anyone else's head now filled with The Village People?

xolik · « **Reply #20 on:** April 08, 2010, 07:42:59 PM »

Quote from: Vespertine on April 08, 2010, 03:15:13 PM

Is it just me or is anyone else's head now filled with The Village People?

Welcome to my world, lady. Been stuck in there since '88

Demosthenes · « **Reply #21 on:** April 09, 2010, 07:55:15 AM »

Quote from: xolik on April 08, 2010, 07:42:59 PM

Welcome to my world, lady. Been stuck in there since '88

At least you get to stay at the YMCA...

xolik · « **Reply #22 on:** April 09, 2010, 09:09:26 AM »

Quote from: Demosthenes on April 09, 2010, 07:55:15 AM

At least you get to stay at the YMCA...

DAMN YOU NOW LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE

Vespertine · « **Reply #23 on:** April 09, 2010, 12:14:25 PM »

Nope. Didn't work, Demo...I still have In the Navy stuck in my head.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #24 on:** April 09, 2010, 05:15:17 PM »

Better than Live and Sleazy. But you could always go west and find the macho men.

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