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song writing
« on: June 29, 2006, 02:19:00 PM »

I'm trying to get back into song writing. I think I'm good at making musical arrangements, but when it comes to lyrics, I have a hard time. I assume it's partly due to my average vocabulary, but then again, maybe I just don't have it in me. Seems to me like everything I write is just cliché. Also, I can apparently only write/sing songs that are depressive, yet I'm not depressed at all! I have a handicap of some kind. I cannto write or come up with a musical arrangement for a happy theme or something that would pep you up. Weird.

For example, I'm working on something now and this is what I came up with so far (comments/assistance appreciated):

Have you ever looked in the mirror
only to see the face of a stranger
Have you ever wanted to be on your own
to spend the rest of your days alone
sometimes I feel like I'm going crazzy
I just want to plead insanity
I'm losing track of the days
I tell myself it's just a phase

And I wonder
when did I loose all my friends?
Yeah I wonder
Will I ever be myself again?


I hate the part "sometimes I feel like I'm going crazzy
I just want to plead insanity". It's just lame. I have to change that for sure.

Anyway, if anyone could offer writting tips, that would be great. (unless the tip is "learn how 2 speel asshole!")
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Re: song writing
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2006, 02:47:42 PM »

learn how 2 speel asshole! "Crazy" has one zed.

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Re: song writing
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2006, 02:52:42 PM »

Right! my attention span is limited. It's been one craza day at the office!
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Re: song writing
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2006, 02:59:19 PM »

Here, I made it less depressing for you:

Have you ever looked in the mirror
and there's someone behind you holding your liver?
Have you ever wanted to gnaw on a bone
And file your nails while you talk on the phone?
sometimes I feel like I'm going crazy
I just want to plead insanity
(I hate that kind of cliche,
So I tell myself it's just a phrase.)

And I wonder
when did I loose all my hair?
Yeah I wonder
Will I ever have poutine again?

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Re: song writing
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2006, 03:01:40 PM »

Haha! Very nice.
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Re: song writing
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2006, 05:54:47 PM »

I liked your Hackernetwork song Judge.  It's on my Ipod.

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Re: song writing
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2006, 06:10:32 PM »

Seems to me like everything I write is just cliché. Also, I can apparently only write/sing songs that are depressive, yet I'm not depressed at all! I have a handicap of some kind. I can't write or come up with a musical arrangement for a happy theme or something that would pep you up

I have the same problem, but most of my songs come out both patriotic and/or homicidal, not a good mix, I also have trouble figuring out the chorus and the bridge.
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Re: song writing
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2006, 07:35:30 PM »

loose != lose
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Re: song writing
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2006, 07:54:59 PM »

not even the same part of speech.

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Re: song writing
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2006, 09:21:17 AM »

loose != lose

AH FER FUCK SAKES!  :slap


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Re: song writing
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2006, 11:47:30 AM »

I have reworked it a bit and I figured if I can only write depressing stuff, then I should stick with that. How about this?

I Wonder

Have you ever looked in the mirror
only to see the face of a stranger
Have you ever wanted to be on your own
to spend the rest of your days alone
sometimes I feel like I'm going insane,
roaming this earth with nothing to gain
And I'm losing track of the days
but I tell myself it's just a phase

And I wonder
when did I lose all my friends?
Yeah I wonder
Will I ever be myself again?
Oh I wonder
how will it all end?

If I died in my sleep at night
will I be drawn to the white light?
And if I choose to kill myself
Will I be lost to the pits of hell?
What is the point of my existence
when my life is in constant turbulence?
My life is filled with mysery
When will death come and set me free?

And I wonder
when did I lose all my friends?
Yeah I wonder
Will I ever be myself again?
Oh I wonder
how will it all end?

I'd turn to love but I've forgotten
what love feels like, why it's like heaven
All I know now is desperation
yet no one offers me any compassion
I lack the strenght to face my demons
so I seek some peace trough my addictions
But at the end of the day
Is there a point to sit around and pray?

And I still wonder
when did I lose all my friends?
Yeah I wonder
Will I ever be myself again?
But I don't wonder
how it will all end...


Oh, and for the record, I am not suicidal.  :lol:
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Re: song writing
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2006, 06:26:04 PM »

This might be of some use in your efforts. Hope that helps!

Just a thought, to be really cool, you should slap a curse word in there here and there. Then people will know that you're serious business.
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Re: song writing
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2006, 06:38:12 PM »

...
Oh, and for the record, I am not suicidal.  :lol:

I have Suicidal on shuffle right now:

song 13 of 50

song:  Emotion No. 13
artist:  Suicidal Tendencies
album:  Lights, Camera, Revolution

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Re: song writing
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2006, 06:43:42 PM »

This might be of some use in your efforts. Hope that helps!

I find it amazing that there is a website entirely devoted to the mental health of the internet. :-D  In all seriousness, I hope a distressed web designer never goes there, as I'm sure the design would push them over the edge.


I have a tough time with lyrics which is why I'm still creating entirely instrumental music. I've actually picked back up this year and have really gotten back into it. I don't know if many of you remember it, but like back in 2001 I posted my music on our FTP, and a couple of the tracks ended up in the featured music section. I've now set up a website for my music, as I'm actively making more: http://www.sdc-music.com/ (zomg SPAM!!11one1).

Right now it is set up on a system where if people make a donation they get a VIP account and can download all of my music for free, but I'll gladly set up an account for any of you here (at least the old-farts who actually remember me :wink: ).
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Re: song writing
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2006, 11:38:05 PM »

Hi ho0ber .  You haven't been forgotten.  Missed perhaps, but not forgotten.
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Re: song writing
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2006, 08:54:18 AM »

[insert "I'm with stupid" smilie here]
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Re: song writing
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2006, 11:34:12 PM »

Hi ho0ber .  You haven't been forgotten.  Missed perhaps, but not forgotten.

Thanks :)  I've been missing you folks too. Now that I have a 9-5er, maybe I'll be able to waste some more time here.
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Re: song writing
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2006, 09:39:20 PM »

Hi ho0ber .  You haven't been forgotten.  Missed perhaps, but not forgotten.

Thanks :)  I've been missing you folks too. Now that I have a 9-5er, maybe I'll be able to waste some more time here.

Time spent here is never wasted. And now, without further ado, "You two, fight to the death!!" :slap
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Re: song writing
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2006, 11:55:23 PM »

Hey ho0ber!
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Re: song writing
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2006, 10:39:32 PM »

Hey ho0ber!

Yarr! Are you still busting rhymes? Or is your illustrious career over?
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Re: song writing
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2006, 12:51:37 PM »

*Bumb*

I was home alone today so I decided to get the instruments out. Here's the 1st version of the song. There's a lot of things I don't like about it, including the last 30 seconds which need to be rearranged completly, but I've had enough for today! (And I never like the way I sing, but that can't be fixed!)

Clack hare

Oh, I was also going to do the Xolik Quotes song, entitled "COCKS LOL" but it'll save that one for another day.  :-D
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Re: song writing
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2006, 07:25:14 PM »

Judge, that was excellent! Great work!  :-D
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Re: song writing
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2006, 07:31:14 PM »

Thanks
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Re: song writing
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2006, 10:21:41 PM »

I appreciate your lyrics.
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Re: song writing
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2006, 09:04:24 AM »

Dang, Judge! I like that! Have ya done any more with it?

Heh; and don't sweat the dark lyrics. Thats all I can come up with when I specifically TRY to write. My best lyrics come out of a tune I already have, and usually seem to just come to me out of nowhere. I've heard all along that you have to almost 'force' yourself to write songs to get any better at it; in other words, practice makes ...better. Although I seem to be the exception to that. The more I try; the crappier the lyrics get, until I just say "ah the hell withit" and just play the tune sans wurds.
 I dont have music for this yet, but this is one of the somewhat 'darker' lyrics, hehehe...

  He

 Dead
They found him dead
With his big yellow teeth
Jutting from his ugly head.

Useless
He wasn't worth much
Wasting everyone's air with
His breathing and such.

Rotting
Piled in the ground
No one seems to notice
He's no longer around.

Nothing
He was just nothing.


  so... there ya go. I've no idea what sort of music goes with this. When I get around to this one, I guess I'll find out then...
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