Topic: Kerry or Bush (Read 43994 times)

Crystalmonkey · « **on:** August 29, 2004, 11:42:59 PM »

Just a few of the arguments between them, you decide:

Kerry:

Against the War
Wants to work on Healthcare, Environment, blah blah blah

Bush:

Obviously for the war
Wants to focus on War on Terror

and both are yelling and screaming at each other bout flip-flopping and bombing and such.

Anonymous · « **Reply #1 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:43:33 AM »

There's a lot more issues than war that should be considered when you vote for somone.

hackess · « **Reply #2 on:** August 30, 2004, 07:43:55 AM »

Heh. If only it were that simple.

Demosthenes · « **Reply #3 on:** August 30, 2004, 08:41:44 AM »

Somebody needs to add a few options to that poll.

hackess · « **Reply #4 on:** August 30, 2004, 08:43:02 AM »

Quote from: Demosthenes

Somebody needs to add a few options to that poll.

Ask and ye shall receive.

Demosthenes · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2004, 08:43:50 AM »

Aha. Perfect. Thanks.

Anonymous · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2004, 08:45:36 AM »

Can I have a kiss?

hackess · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2004, 08:54:30 AM »

Quote from: TheJudge

Can I have a kiss?

Dream on.

Anonymous · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2004, 08:57:54 AM »

Don't flater yourself. I erm... I was asking Demo! OMFGLOL!!11

xolik · « **Reply #9 on:** August 30, 2004, 09:13:52 AM »

Mercy me, Crystalmonkey. You've been quite the busy beaver around here haven't you?

Demosthenes · « **Reply #10 on:** August 30, 2004, 09:29:35 AM »

Quote from: TheJudge

Can I have a kiss?

Lay one on me, Judgie.

avalanche · « **Reply #11 on:** August 30, 2004, 10:05:19 AM »

For the love of all that is good in this world, tell me that this individual is:
1) Too busy to remember to register to vote
2) Too young to vote
C) Not very observant
4) Canadian

By the way, Kerry hasn't been the Anti-War candidate since Howard Dean self destructed.

reimero · « **Reply #12 on:** August 30, 2004, 10:49:39 AM »

Quote from: Crystalmonkey

Just a few of the arguments between them, you decide:

Kerry:

Against the War
Wants to work on Healthcare, Environment, blah blah blah

Bush:

Obviously for the war
Wants to focus on War on Terror

and both are yelling and screaming at each other bout flip-flopping and bombing and such.

That's a nice, neutral, unbiased view of things.

Seriously, my take on the way the election is going is this:
Bush is campaigning on staying the course, coupled with more tax cuts to spur econimic growth (whether tax cuts spur growth is another question.)

Kerry is campaigning on the fact that he's not George Bush (seriously, he tends mostly toward keeping Bush's general plans, but "doing it better.") I'm sure this remark will get the bejeezus flamed out of me, but the strongest pro-Kerry statement I've seen is that he's not GWB.

reimero · « **Reply #13 on:** August 30, 2004, 11:00:07 AM »

How am I going to vote? I'm really not sure yet. I didn't vote for Bush in 2000 (which is saying something, since I tend to have strong Republican leanings and previously voted for GHWB and Bob Dole - but in all fairness, Dole actually won my vote as opposed to winning it by default.)

As I've grown older, I've become less conservative. It still comes back now and again (causing more than a few interesting paradoxes) but basically, I have the following dillemma:

GWB has done everything in his power not to get my vote.
John Kerry has done exactly nothing to win my vote. Anti-Bush activists like asking whether things could possibly get any worse. And I'm beginning to think that under Kerry, they might. But that's me.
Ralph Nader isn't on the ballot in my state, but I'm seriously considering writing him in.
A number of Kerry activists at work have pissed me off to the point that I'm considering voting for Bush for the sole purpose of getting revenge on them. Yes, they make me THAT angry, and not all of it has to do with presidential politics.
My vote really doesn't matter much, since my state is solidly in Bush's camp. They haven't backed a Democrat president since 1964.

I'm really at a loss as to what to do. Do you go with the devil you know or the devil you don't? Because I truly believe Kerry will not be an improvement. As right-wing as the Bush camp is, Kerry is that left-wing. The signs are all there: the Democrats effectively sidelined the moderate wing of the party, as have the Republicans. And either extreme is bad.

TerrorDronze · « **Reply #14 on:** August 30, 2004, 11:38:12 AM »

Everyone vote for Noone

I mean it, write "Noone" or "Nobody" on your ballots, hopefully, then, the gov't would get the idea.

Anonymous · « **Reply #15 on:** August 30, 2004, 12:29:57 PM »

Quote from: Demosthenes

Quote from: TheJudge
Can I have a kiss?

Lay one on me, Judgie.

Demosthenes · « **Reply #16 on:** August 30, 2004, 12:32:39 PM »

Oh yeah. That's the stuff.

JesterPoet · « **Reply #17 on:** August 30, 2004, 12:57:02 PM »

I'm having a really hard time making up my mind.

I sit here, in a swing state, knowing that my vote may just matter. I really don't know what to do, however.

What I do know is that I am not voting for Bush. I really think our country needs to send a message to the rest of the world that we don't support the unilateral lunacy that Bush has been spearheading. The only way to do that, is to vote him out. Some people argue that we don't need the rest of the world. I disagree with that.

Bush is also raping our environment. That bothers me deeply.

At the same time, to quote reimero, "John Kerry has done exactly nothing to win my vote." I can't get over the feeling that voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. I honestly don't know if Kerry plans to make things better or not.

I usually vote third party. I voted for Nader last year. This year, I don't really trust doing that for two reasons... one, it will help hand the election to Bush, and two, Nader is becoming more of a lunatic every year.

I really wish I could find a good, non-partisan, readable site that would give me factual information on candidates that will make me a more knowledgable voter. I haven't found much that I can put faith in, however.

It's gonna be a tough decision.

Crystalmonkey · « **Reply #18 on:** August 30, 2004, 04:02:55 PM »

If I COULD vote, which will be in the next ellection, I'd rather vote for former gov of NY, Rudy, or Mcain. They are both better than the current line-up. And I know that Bush is raping the environment, but I think Kerry would be worse for us.

Demosthenes · « **Reply #19 on:** August 30, 2004, 04:45:34 PM »

Personally, I feel that people that cannot spell the word "election" correctly should never be allowed to vote in one.

Crystalmonkey · « **Reply #20 on:** August 30, 2004, 04:56:13 PM »

Hey, I'm not here at the momement! Please leave a message after the moron!

DUH! DUH! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pbsaurus · « **Reply #21 on:** August 30, 2004, 05:19:19 PM »

Quote from: Demosthenes

Personally, I feel that people that cannot spell the word "election" correctly should never be allowed to vote in one.

Right you are brother. I'm voting for this guy from San Jose, CA. Perhaps some of you know him....

hackess · « **Reply #22 on:** August 30, 2004, 05:23:50 PM »

Quote from: pbsaurus

Quote from: Demosthenes
Personally, I feel that people that cannot spell the word "election" correctly should never be allowed to vote in one.

Right you are brother. I'm voting for this guy from San Jose, CA. Perhaps some of you know him....

I agree, Demo.

Pb, would you be referring to one Peter J. Shepherd?

pbsaurus · « **Reply #23 on:** August 30, 2004, 05:29:35 PM »

Yup that's the guy. When elected I hear that he's going to pick all sorts of non-political types for cabinet posts and such.

Law · « **Reply #24 on:** August 30, 2004, 09:20:03 PM »

Quote from: Crystalmonkey

And I know that Bush is raping the environment, but I think Kerry would be worse for us.

For the environment? Or in general? Or just generalizing?

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