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Voting closed: August 29, 2004, 11:42:59 PM
Quote from: RainaI'm far too lazy to type it out, and my friend would have a better way with the words. I basically agree with everything he thinks about politics, so maybe I can have him type it all out later.Please don't vote until you can think for youself. Thanks.
I'm far too lazy to type it out, and my friend would have a better way with the words. I basically agree with everything he thinks about politics, so maybe I can have him type it all out later.
That's incredibly stupid. Sorry, but if you can't back up your own decisions, you're nothing but a sheep.
Foreign policy: The general Republican strategy for foreign policy is war is a good way to solve conflict, and the Republican criteria for going to war are different than the Democratic criteria. Generally, Democrats will only go to war if there is clear and present need or if it's retaliatory, and it's usually not anything full-scale. Republicans go to war preventatively, and with more force than Democrats usually. In the case of 9/11, both Democrats and Republicans would, for the most part, agree with the invasion of Afghanistan - there was a STRONG sense of bipartisanship there. Where they differ is on Iraq - Bush went to war with Iraq as a preemptive measure, and rather than try to resolve things through the UN, he went for the full-scale invasion. If it had been a Democrat, he would have probably acted with the UN to ensure that weapons inspections took place, and not commit as many troops.Abortion: Republicans value an unborn life as if it were a born life - there isn't much differentiation there, and the Republican view of abortion is that it IS murder, and therefore should be illegal. Some Republicans get this ideal from the Bible, others get it from their own general sense of morality, but for one reason or the other, abortion is murder and under no circumstances should a routine pregnancy end in abortion (some will consent to abortion in the case of rape or if it endangers the mother's life.) Democrats think that abortion is not murder, since a fetus is not a baby, and noone can decide for a woman whether or not she should be carrying a baby. Adoption results in a bad upbringing a lot of the time, so abortion looks like the only choice for some people. A lot of Democrats don't agree with abortion personally, but don't think that the government has any say over what a woman does with her own body. The main distinction is between alive and not alive, and a mother's right and sanctity of life. Republicans think fetuses are alive and value the sanctity of that life, Democrats think fetuses are not yet alive, and that mothers have the right to choose whether or not to have a baby.Gay marriage: In general, Republicans disagree with gay marriage, and this disagreement is almost exclusively tied in with religious beliefs. A lot of professional Democrats also disagree with gay marriage, because it's hard to get elected to office in America if you're not religious. But as a party, Democrats are more accepting of the idea of gay marriage, even sometimes with the religious belief that homosexuality is a sin. Republicans think gay marriage would destroy the sanctity associated with marriage, and that marriage is a ceremony reserved for men and women, Democrats think that's just discriminatory homophobia. Democrats interpret the first amdendment to mean that the citizens of the US shall be protected from religion, as well as religion being protected from government, but Republicans only think it says the latter of the two. The issue is the confusion of civil and religious marriage - many Republicans disagree with gay marriage because they're disagreeing with religious gay marriage. Civil marriage is recognized by the government and is disconnected with religion. Democrats believe that if one tries to govern civil marriage based on religious principles, you've destroyed the first amendment, probably the 14th amendment, and turned America into a theocracy.Taxes: Republicans believe that everyone should carry their own weight, percentage-wise, and Democrats believe that the richer you are, the higher percentage you should pay. America uses a tax bracket system which is set up the Democratic way, but Republicans can undermine that system by cutting only the higher tax brackets to relieve the tax stress on the extremely wealthy. Democrats usually cut the middle class's taxes more than the upper class, since the middle class will benefit more from it. The basic idea is whether or not you deserve to live the way you do: for Republicans, if you're poor, you deserve to be poor and the rich shouldn't help you, and for Democrats, the poor may deserve to be poor, but they don't deserve to live in poverty, and it falls to the rich to pick up the slack, since they have something to pick it up with.The death penalty: While Republicans value life on abortion, they don't value life in the case of criminal justice - this idea also sometimes stems from the Bible - the concept of an eye for an eye. Republicans think that there are crimes one can commit that are worthy of being put to death, and Democrats do not. One reason Democrats may not believe in the death penalty is the possibility of error in conviction, but that's becoming more and more negligible with today's forensics. The reason most Democrats oppose the death penalty is they just don't think it's the government's place to be killing people for something they've done - lock them up forever, but a group of people deciding on the life or death of another person is just not the way things should go.
The proof is in how she responds to ideas introduced: if all she's CAPABLE of is spouting Demublican propoganda, she is definitely sheep. If she demonstrates the ability to comprehend multiple sides of an argument (because there are often more than 2!) then she's worthy of a political discussion with Demosthenes
Quote from: catwritrThat's incredibly stupid. Sorry, but if you can't back up your own decisions, you're nothing but a sheep.In what sense? I've heard both sides of it and chose for myself which side I felt I belonged with. I just don't feel yet equipped in fully arguing why I choose the Democrat party. I am new to politics afterall, and I know that my friend is better with it than I am. I'm not claiming to know everything about politics, just that I agree with the Democrat standpoint on the several issues I've heard.
Yeah, well, as reimero said:QuoteThe proof is in how she responds to ideas introduced: if all she's CAPABLE of is spouting Demublican propoganda, she is definitely sheep. If she demonstrates the ability to comprehend multiple sides of an argument (because there are often more than 2!) then she's worthy of a political discussion with Demosthenes
Foreign policy: Where they differ is on Iraq - Bush went to war with Iraq as a preemptive measure, and rather than try to resolve things through the UN, he went for the full-scale invasion. If it had been a Democrat, he would have probably acted with the UN to ensure that weapons inspections took place, and not commit as many troops.
Abortion:
Gay Marriage:
Taxes: Republicans believe that everyone should carry their own weight, percentage-wise, and Democrats believe that the richer you are, the higher percentage you should pay.
The Death Penalty
If I could vote, I would vote for Bush. For one, he wants to upgrade our armor and weapons etc.. Hell, if our boys come home safe who should complain? Secondly, he actually shows expression an meaning when he gives speeches. It actually seems like this is something he is passionate about. Kerry on the other hand always seems to have that Frankenstein boring old man look to him. Never smiles, never really changes his tone, always just boring and monotoned. It just doesn't seem like something he is really ardent about.
If I could vote, I would vote for Bush. For one, he wants to upgrade our armor and weapons etc..
Hell, if our boys come home safe who should complain?
Secondly, he actually shows expression an meaning when he gives speeches.
It actually seems like this is something he is passionate about.
Kerry on the other hand always seems to have that Frankenstein boring old man look to him.
Never smiles, never really changes his tone, always just boring and monotoned.
It just doesn't seem like something he is really ardent about.
He was, but he didn't do any of the heroic stuff he says he did. There is a lot of proof, even from people who were in Vietnam with him.
1: ) Who wears blaze orange for camouflage!?
for camouflage
And Law, obviously he isn't true about something cause the Vietnam vets hate him...http://members.aol.com/viperash50/links/links.html
Not just Anti Kerry, Anti Stupid ,Egotistical, Liberal, Democrats
btw, John Kerry also got an "F" rating from the NRA, whatever that means...
Lolxxor, I just found this out, this definatly will make sure he doesn't win Wisoconsin..."... You, wearing your BLAZE ORANGE CAMOUFLAGE at LAMBERGE FIELD...." - John Kerry1: ) Who wears blaze orange for camouflage!?2: ) Its LAMBEAU FIELD you dick...
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