Topic: Kerry and New Hampshire (Read 5119 times)

Xeno Ghost · « **on:** January 28, 2004, 03:51:28 PM »

So, after the primary hit New Hampshire, it seems Kerry is on top again.

This was kind of an important time for Dean, and he needed this state to hold up his image of the top canidate. Seems now he'll be on damage control.

So, what is everyone's take on these primaries hinting that Kerry and Edwards are some of the favorites of the Democratic peoples?

I personally am going for Clark, but he's not done all that great. But hell, Super Tuesday isn't until March 2nd, so I won't be too quick to say that the selection is being made now.

JohnnyFive · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2004, 12:28:25 AM »

Quote from: Xeno Ghost

So, after the primary hit New Hampshire, it seems Kerry is on top again.

This was kind of an important time for Dean, and he needed this state to hold up his image of the top canidate. Seems now he'll be on damage control.

So, what is everyone's take on these primaries hinting that Kerry and Edwards are some of the favorites of the Democratic peoples?

I personally am going for Clark, but he's not done all that great. But hell, Super Tuesday isn't until March 2nd, so I won't be too quick to say that the selection is being made now.

I have no clue what any of that means. I thought i was politically inclined too. Who is Clark? Wasn't he in Superman?

Xeno Ghost · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2004, 12:42:05 AM »

Umm... lol

hackess · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2004, 09:26:42 AM »

Quote from: Xeno Ghost

So, after the primary hit New Hampshire, it seems Kerry is on top again.

This was kind of an important time for Dean, and he needed this state to hold up his image of the top canidate. Seems now he'll be on damage control.

So, what is everyone's take on these primaries hinting that Kerry and Edwards are some of the favorites of the Democratic peoples?

I personally am going for Clark, but he's not done all that great. But hell, Super Tuesday isn't until March 2nd, so I won't be too quick to say that the selection is being made now.

Kerry is for sure the Democratic frontrunner, right now. Edwards, despite his good showing in Iowa, will never be in that position.

I personally haven't made up my mind about who I will be voting for come February 17 (Wisconsin's primary), but I can say it will be one of three: Dean, Clark, or Kerry.

Lieberman and Kucinich should cut their losses and get out of the race.

Law · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2004, 09:48:08 AM »

Quote from: catwritr

Lieberman and Kucinich should cut their losses and get out of the race.

Did you see Lieberman's speech in NH? "We're not in fifth place (he was in fifth place...), we're in a three way tie for third!"

To quote Jon Stewart, "And you're happy you came in third for being third?"

Yeah, Joe needs to cut and run. I think Dean would give Bush a good challenge. I think Eyore (Kerry) will fold when faced with a campaign where has to challenge another party's candidate.

Xeno Ghost · « **Reply #5 on:** January 29, 2004, 12:53:54 PM »

Well, that was the surprising thing after the NH primary, no canidates dropped out.

I agree, Lieberman and Kucinich need to drop. It's just not happening for them.

BUT, like I said, Super Tuesday isn't until March 2nd. The very bottom canidate until that date could win that, and if he does, then he's liable to get the nomination. There are a lot of votes on the 2nd.

That's why we say the primaries are "Front Loaded," meaning that it doesn't really matter after the 2nd even though they continue into May(?). lol

hackess · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2004, 12:58:15 PM »

Quote from: Xeno Ghost

BUT, like I said, Super Tuesday isn't until March 2nd. The very bottom canidate until that date could win that, and if he does, then he's liable to get the nomination. There are a lot of votes on the 2nd.

I disagree. The "very bottom candidate" has no chance of winning Super Tuesday. He'd have to take a huge percentage of the vote in every single state on March 2 to come anywhere close to the top of the heap again. Lieberman and Kucinich don't have what it takes to win a state like California, let alone take them all.

Xeno Ghost · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2004, 03:12:35 PM »

Oh, I agree, I was just speaking hypothetically.

MISTER MASSACRE · « **Reply #8 on:** January 29, 2004, 06:46:35 PM »

I've seen multiple interviews with all of the candidates, and thus far Clark strikes me as the most capable.

Of course I'm Canadian, so what do I care? None of these guys is ever going to be president anyway...

pbsaurus · « **Reply #9 on:** January 29, 2004, 07:34:48 PM »

Clark looks and sounds OK, Dean has some good ideas, Edwards has a decent voting record. Kucinich has some good progressive ideas, but he's almost a socialist, so in total no way. Sharpton provides some good comic relief. Lieberman is more Bush than Bush. In the debates, I liked Braun the best. Didn't agree with all of her ideas but as far as integrity and having balls, she was the man. I was going to register as a demublican so that I could vote for her in the CA primary, but now she's out so I guess I will remain registered independent.

As for my ultimate vote in November, I plan to vote for myself.

biggyfred · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2004, 06:47:22 PM »

You can still vote for her pb.

Once upon a time, a decent chap named Paul Tsongas, a senator from Mass, won both Iowa and NH.... and didn't win the primary. Not even close.

The Economist has a great piece on the primary, talking about how a contest like the one we're having is fantastic for our democracy. They even kind of touch the idea that they didn't think we were capable of it any longer. It's not about the Dem party tossing around ideas, squaring off and forging a platform, it's that it's even happening in American politics at all.

I happen to be a Dem. Go team. I'm lovin it.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2004, 06:50:25 PM »

I liked Tsongas. Masters swimmers have the utmost integrity.

hackess · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2004, 07:05:55 PM »

Quote from: biggyfred

I happen to be a Dem. Go team. I'm lovin it.

Amen, brother. Amen.

biggyfred · « **Reply #13 on:** February 04, 2004, 09:15:22 PM »

I don't think Dean is out of it. He will have a very strong showing (if he doesn't win) here in Washinton on Saturday, and if he can take Wisconsin, he's right back in it.

hackess · « **Reply #14 on:** February 04, 2004, 09:46:13 PM »

Quote from: biggyfred

I don't think Dean is out of it. He will have a very strong showing (if he doesn't win) here in Washinton on Saturday, and if he can take Wisconsin, he's right back in it.

I agree. Here in Wisconsin, he's got a strong following in Madison, but I'm pretty sure he's too liberal for Milwaukee. It'll be interesting to see how he does here.

Xeno Ghost · « **Reply #15 on:** February 04, 2004, 11:35:01 PM »

Here at my campus, Dean had a big following, I mean there were so many avid fans they were chalking (we can write in water-based chalk on sidewalks to give students updates on events coming up, etc.) horrible stuff about other canidates (especially Clark). I attributed it to the fact he's tried to do what Clinton did, reach out to the young audiences by "trying" to be cool. Like his appearances on The Daily Show with John Stewart.

So, I was really happy when Clark won. I think the better canidate did indeed win.

JohnnyFive · « **Reply #16 on:** February 05, 2004, 04:53:21 AM »

Wow, have I been out of it or what. I was just watching some liberal news today and the democratic candidates came on. I need to get back to the politics affecting our country, i've been reading too much about other stuff.... I completely missed the campaigns.

From what i've seen though, Kerry looks like a president. I mean, one you would've found 100 or so years ago. He looks... so worn down. Poor guy.

hackess · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2004, 10:52:36 AM »

Clark has dropped out of the race. Why haven't Kucinich and Sharpton gotten the hint yet?

Xeno Ghost · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2004, 11:43:33 AM »

Yeah, I'm pissed that Clark is dropping out. He's done just as well as Dean has and better than Sharpton and Kucinich.

Ah well. Looks like I'm going for either Kerry or Edwards. Both look good to me.

I saw Kerry today in my White Collar Crime class. We were watching a video made by the History Channel (the show was called 20th Century) and it was talking about the Iran/Contra scandel and Kerry was making a comment on it. He was still a senator at the time and he looked way younger.

Time in political offices does effect people bad.

Binoboy · « **Reply #19 on:** February 14, 2004, 12:44:53 AM »

Quote from: catwritr

Clark has dropped out of the race. Why haven't Kucinich and Sharpton gotten the hint yet?

Kucinich is a hopeless idealist and Sharpton is... Sharpton.

Anonymous · « **Reply #20 on:** February 14, 2004, 08:10:53 AM »

I'm moving to Canada is Sharpton wins. I don't want to listen to how everyone is a raciest bigot everyday from him.

hackess · « **Reply #21 on:** February 14, 2004, 11:12:51 AM »

Quote from: Chris

I'm moving to Canada is Sharpton wins. I don't want to listen to how everyone is a raciest bigot everyday from him.

Sharpton has no chance. You won't have to move to Canada. Kerry snapped up the nomination over a week ago.

biggyfred · « **Reply #22 on:** February 14, 2004, 04:02:00 PM »

I saw Sharpton debate live a coupla years back. He tore the opposition to shreds, and the topic wasn't race.

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