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Author Topic: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?  (Read 4712 times)

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Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« on: October 18, 2008, 01:53:06 AM »

I'm only expecting one or two people to bother with this topic... Tori Amos and Ani DiFranco arn't as big as I thought...

I'm looking for people to discuss lyrics of their songs with, Tori Amos rarely up and sings what she's trying to point out and with Ani DiFranco... Well I'm more interested to find out if she's talking about a guy or a gal in her songs...

At the moment I wanna know about Mr Zebra with Tori Amos... I can catch a few lines but it's pretty blurry and Pixie with Ani DiFranco...

I don't download songs of singers I actually like, it doesn't have the same zing. Forgive me if I don't know some of the songs brought up... If any...

Peace and love.
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Re: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2008, 09:37:07 AM »

Tori Amos - Mr. Zebra

lyrics discussion

Hello Mr. Zebra.
Can I have you sweater 'cause it's cold, cold, cold in my hole, hole, hole.
Ratatouille Strychnine- sometimes she's a friend of mine,
With her gigantic whirlpool that will blow your mind.

Hello Mr. Zebra.
Ran into some confusion with a Mrs. Croc-o-dile-dile-dile.
Furry mussels marching on, she thinks she's Kaiser Wilhelm.
Or a civilized syllabub to blow your mind.


Figure it out. She, she's a goodtime fella.
She got a little fund to fight for Moneypenny's rights.
Figure it out. She, she's a goodtime fella.
"Too bad the burial was premature," she said, and smiled.




Ani DiFranco – Pixie

lyrics discussion

i'm a pixie
i'm a paperdoll
i'm a cartoon
i'm a chipper cheerful free for all
and i light up a room
i'm the color me happy girl
miss live and let live
and when they're out for blood
i always give

the man behind the counter looks like he's got
a half a dozen places he'd rather be
and furthermore it looks like he's prepared
to take it all out on me
buddy, i don't really care what your problem is
just don't make it mine
come on kids, let's all hold hands
and pretend we're having a good time

maybe you don't like your job
maybe you didn't get enough sleep
well, nobody likes their job
nobody got enough sleep
maybe you just had
the worst day of your life
but, you know, there's no escape
and there's no excuse
so just suck up and be nice

all the privileged white kids on tv
playing at death
brandishing their cold cuts
with their ghostly makeup
and their heroin breath
and all the little fishes are flapping wildly
on their hooks
while all the top critics find great meaning
in the telephone book

the little emperor he has no clothes
so he can't come out to play
and besides which life is suffering
and he likes it that way
and the little guy is not so friendly
but you know life has been cruel
so wipe that smile off your face baby
and try to be cool

maybe you don't like your job
maybe you didn't get enough sleep
well, nobody likes their job
nobody got enough sleep
maybe you just had
the worst day of your life
but, you know, there's no escape
and there's no excuse
so just suck up and be nice

yeah, i would like to perfect the art
of being studiously aloof
like life is just a boring chore
and i am living proof
i could join forces with an army
of ornery hipsters
but then i guess i'd be out of a job
so i guess that's out of the picture

'cause i'm a pixie
i'm a paperdoll
i'm a cartoon
i'm a chipper cheerful free for all
and i light up a room
i'm the color me happy girl
miss live and let live
and when they're out for blood
i always give

 I long ago gave up trying to figure out what artists "meant" with lyrics. A LOT of times the artist didn't write the lyrics in the first place. If they did; a LOT of times it means nothing profound. Sometimes things just rhyme; and that's all there is to it. I've written songs myself that seem to have some deeper meaning; now if I could just find someone to let me know what that deeper meaning was...

 My point is that for all the interest in profundity or meaning in lyrics; the majority of songs are just words.  Sure, they may be the actual thoughts or points of view of the artist or writer; but that doesn't automatically make them "more" meaningful or give them a "deeper meaning". Remember - most artists aren't interested in difficult, convoluted, and complicated situations; why would they spend their time endeavoring to hide the "real" meaning? Most artists would probably rather be understood clearly if they had something profound to say.
 Still, I agree it is kinda fun to theorize on what something could mean. 




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Re: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2008, 10:38:31 AM »

Oh wait.. was I one of the two?  :-P  :-)
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Re: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2008, 10:49:43 AM »

 Ok, here's one for ya. The first few verses are worded in a certain way; but it's not until the end that you realize that it's not quite what you thought. I think. Anyway . . .
 wrote a song about it wanna hear it here it go:


I wrote the book
 on The Pursuit
 This is my game
 These are my rules
 So you really better watch your step
 'Cos I'm out to get you.

 You can run but
 You cannot hide
 Look over your shoulder
 I'm right behind
 So you better not miss a step
 Or then you're mine.



   I'm on you
   Like ten on a dial
   Heart attack
   When you crack a smile
   For a wink
   I'd walk a mile
   Throw myself out on the tiles
   For you . . .
   For for you


 I've been after you
 For weeks
 You fill my head
 Fill my dreams
 By hook, crook,
 Or any other means
 I'm going to have you.



   I'm on you
   Like ten on a dial
   Heart attack
   When you crack a smile
   For a wink
   I'd walk a mile
   Throw myself out on the tiles
   For you . . .
   For for you

   I'm on you
   Like ten on a dial
   Heart attack
   When you crack a smile
   For a wink
   I'd walk a mile
   Throw myself out on the tiles
   For you . . .
   For for you . . .




dae it is
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Re: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2008, 11:23:37 AM »

i don't think i've listened to ani difranco since high school. oh, the memories.
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Re: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2008, 08:17:45 AM »

See?! Only two different peoples replies, forty something views though.Thats about... Forty something more than I expected!

See, Mr Zebra to me is based on a childrens book. Tori does that a few times with her music making light of not so happy stories. Mr Zebra, Mrs Crocodile, Ratatouille Strychnine, blah blah are all 'characters'...

I'm just gonna throw what I think in when I think it... My thoughts are all over the place so it doesn't follow the song too well...

Mr Zebra and Mrs Crocodile are an idea born of research. Supposedly Tori figured out a kind of Crocodile (although I think it was an Alligator) likes to munch on Zebra's. 'Ran into some confusion' could maybe say something about one person avoiding another who relies on them... 'Cause getting eaten may hurt. Ratatouille Strychnine (Strychnine is a rat poison I think) is, as Tori explains, a loveable double agent who poisons people when they are hurting us. 'Sometimes she's a friend of mine' is pointing out sometimes she'll help and sometimes she won't, much like real life where running away could make things either better or worse. 'With a gigantic whirlpool that will blow your mind' is reference to Ratatouille Strychnine's indecision (humanity's indecision)

I think 'it's cold, cold, cold in my hole, hole, hole' maybe dirty... I dunno, my mind. Another thing Tori does is throws in James Bond references, like in Cornflake Girl (praying you've heard that) she makes a reference to 'the man with the golden gun'. With Mr Zebra she's refering to Moneypenny, a common James Bond character. I'm not sure why yet though...

For what it's worth, I could be very wrong but I like doing these analysis' and it's passing English so why not let the world know... Right? I was into interpretations of Art too... But it turns out to be a good painter you need to realise the world is stupid. Pretty colours will do, whether they mean anything or not. I was so guttered when I figured that out so now music is the only thing I can really focus on. So sad.
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Re: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2008, 08:33:25 AM »

Your song Mr. 7...
At first it was to me, odd stalker man following sexy, ditsy blond.

But rereading it, it's a simple matter of effort. Something as simple as the little rhymes you throw in show a sense of genuine capability. The lyrics show craving or desire out of a 'love at first glance' idea. One thing that gets me is the fact that she may have a nice ass but thats it... What if you end up bonking and then you figure out she's a bi'hatch?

Then again... Most songs don't have, 'you have really nice feelings' in them do they? Except for boybands...

Thats just me.

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Re: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2008, 11:53:31 AM »

I thought Mr. Zebera was a reference to Tori's first band.

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Re: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2008, 12:34:25 PM »

I had a forty-something view of things -- 2 years ago.
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Re: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2008, 06:34:35 PM »

So you've regressed?

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Re: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2008, 02:13:03 AM »

I thought Mr. Zebera was a reference to Tori's first band.

Don't leave me hanging... What do you mean?
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2008, 10:12:42 AM »

So you've regressed?

Only in the sense that I've regressed.
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Re: Ani DiFranco or Tori Amos...?
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2008, 01:18:57 PM »

Don't leave me hanging... What do you mean?

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