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Main Forums => Political Opinions => Topic started by: Terminator_484 on March 14, 2008, 05:03:24 PM
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AFRICA
A continent that has been neglected, abused, pillaged, and exploited by the rest of the world for centuries of history. A dozen wars burn across the continent, dictators sack their own nations, millions starve and die of disease each year, and the rest of the world is content to look the other way. Shame on them.
International aid shipments are seized by corrupt governments before they can reach those in need. Humanitarian groups can only do so much, and the good they manage to do is rarely permanent. Some groups have even gone so far as to write off Africa as a lost cause, and give up.
FedCom refutes that sentiment. Ours is the ONLY micronation intent on building the world's first modern civilization in this forsaken land; to give the neglected people of Africa a chance for prosperity. We envision a new nation, on par with that of the most developed nations in existence today, which could lead the rest of Africa out of the slums of the third world.
Powerful as that vision is, we cannot do it alone: we need the strength to make a difference. We have the plan and the vision: we just need the means to bring it to life.
If you find this interesting and would like more information, or would like to contact the FedCom government, please take a moment to visit our website.
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After your link is deleted, we'll debate the merits of your plea.
I, for one, believe that Africans have enough information to know that they needn't be governed the way they are. All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.
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What makes you think enveloping all those nations into one will work? We're seeing more seccession than anything anymore. Most recently Kosovo breaking from Serbia. I think more fragmentation would be beneficial. If anything the peoples of Africa should go back to governance pre-colonially. The west fucked up the continent in the first place with the arbitrary boundaries. Ultimately let to conflicts such as Tutsi/Hutu in Rwanda, the genocides in Darfur, etc. Obviously western style government doesn't work there.
In my view, the bigger the bureaucracy, the more corrupt and inefficient it is.
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In my view, the bigger the bureaucracy, the more corrupt and inefficient it is.
Exactly.
Just watch the EU for signs of that in coming years.
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It's already there. The larger countries are discontented with the newer smaller economies and now there's political outrage at immigration.
/me probably reads too much of The Economist
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We envision a new nation...
Is he really suggesting making the entire contintent of Africa one single nation?
/me shivers
I'll withhold my sign up until AFTER the apocolypse. :-P
The west fucked up the continent in the first place with the arbitrary boundaries
On all else, I concur with pbsaurus.
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One nation will not help the tribal warfare that is waged in Africa.
I think everything I could say has already been said better :D.
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It's fixed now.
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After your link is deleted, we'll debate the merits of your plea.
What is wrong with the link? It goes directly to our website; it is not an advertising ploy. It was provided for convenience only.
All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.
Which is why we are doing this: to stop the fighting and create at least one small corner of Africa that can finally know peace.
Obviously western style government doesn't work there.
In my view, the bigger the bureaucracy, the more corrupt and inefficient it is.
FedCom is not a Western-style government, and we agree that bureaucracies are to be avoided at all costs.
Is he really suggesting making the entire contintent of Africa one single nation?
Absolutely NOT.
FedCom is a new nation project: a separatist project. Globalization is furthest from our intent.
One nation will not help the tribal warfare that is waged in Africa.
Of course not, but a new nation can provide a refuge for those who want to be free from the unending bloodbath.
It's fixed now.
There was certainly no need to mock the link or my nation. (link removed)
If this board will not accept external links, go to Google and search for "FedCom". Our website appears on the first page: option seven, the last time I checked...
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It's not that external links aren't allowed. The problem is that you joined this discussion forum for the single purpose of furthering YOUR cause. It would appear that you had no intention of contributing to the site in a meaningful way. If, for some odd reason you decide to stick around and contribute something worth reading, I bet the powers that be would allow you to include your silly URL in every post if you wanted to.
Now, on to your comments.
What makes you believe that you can export your style of governance to another part of the world? Nation building, from what I've seen in my short life-time, is something that must be undertaken by those who will be governed. It's not something that some group of outsiders can do on behalf of the residents.
So, you plan to take a small piece of land from an existing country on the continent? I'd love to know which existing nation is going to allow you to change their borders without bloodshed. Mind you, I didn't follow your link and I have no intention of doing so. If you want to sell me on your idea, you'll have to do it here. And, in that vein, what good is it going to do to convince me? I have no influence on the continent of Africa. Or, do you need my money? That's it... right? You want my money?
Which tribe(s) do you expect to make the journey to your new nation? How do you expect them to get there? Where do you plan for them to stay once they arrive?
I love how you call it "my nation" in your reply to Dark Shade. That makes me tingly inside.
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HA! I just did some research on your fucked up little club and I have to say you're pathetic. You don't give a shit about the people of Africa. You never have. All you're looking for is land on the continent to claim as your own so that you can build your stupid communist utopia.
Good luck with that.
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HA! I just did some research on your fucked up little club and I have to say you're pathetic. You don't give a shit about the people of Africa. You never have. All you're looking for is land on the continent to claim as your own so that you can build your stupid communist utopia.
Good luck with that.
Who? This guy or the Free-Staters?
*runs like hell*
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...not an advertising ploy...
I may be just an annoying newbie, but this is not my first orbit around the sun.
Wait... let me see.
It looks like an advertisement.
It sounds like an advertisement when read out loud.
It even has that classical aroma of traveling-sales-man to it.
And when studied closely it just beams with good marketing technique. Yep. It must be.
Your ENTIRE post was an advertisement.
(Anything else I had to say was said already by BizB.)
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the problem with africa is that they don't know how to run a country clearly those darkies should just hand their land over to me because that worked out so well in the past no i'm not advocating a new country within a country but a separatist nation within a country the difference is something that i'll think up of if you give me a few minutes besides obviously we'll only let refugees in because the warlords will totally respect the boundaries of
my new personal empire this new refugee-only nation of which i've clearly established by putting a sign on the border that says 'no warlords allowed' god do i have to explain everything to you simpleminded plebs :x
paypal only plz
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Have you been smoking the funny cigarettes, boy?
What you propose goes way above and beyond what any one group not holding any significant political power or military power can accomplish in such a worn-torn continent.
Why don't you come up with a plan to solve the Gaza Strip crisis while you're at it.
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Why don't you come up with a plan to solve the Gaza Strip crisis while you're at it.
jew conspiracy funded by PURESTRAIN GOLD
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jew conspiracy funded by PURESTRAIN GOLD
Hasn't that one already been done before?
Or are we reversing the clandestined race in hopes of disguising the ancient history rerun for a more harmonious outcome?
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Don't give away all our secrets! :x
Whelp, time to hit the sack. Got to be up extra early in the morning tomorrow because my gay civil war re-enactment club is going to recreate the battle of manasses.
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Condemnant quod non intellegunt
This forum states: "Serious posts regarding serious topics."
Keep your mockery to yourselves; you don't see me mocking your cultures and homelands.
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First of all...
condemnant quod non-intellegunt
...is Latin for "they condemn because they do not understand".
Oooooo. He makes a post in another language. And I think we understand you just fine. We mock you because we DO understand you and we think you are poorly prepared and silly.
Second of all...
condemnant quod non-intellegunt
... really? Seriously? You've got to be kidding me. That's the best you could come up with? You only picked the one latin phrase than can be and has been used to defend anything and everything.
I like "Quo vadis". Or how about "verbum sat sapienti". I know... "sic semper tyrannis". Oh... wait... Virginia's already got a claim on that one, sorry. Oo... "cui bono"!! It's perfect! Of course, there's always "nihil de nihilo fit". Look! I can do it too! Here's my personal credo.
mens conscia recti
:-P
And finally...
you don't see me mocking your cultures and homelands.
Did you READ any of the posts in this forum before vomitting up a thread like this?
Actually, being Native American AND Polish, I'm inclined to tell you to join the party. However, I am reminded that, as a Polska, we kind of started the mockery trend ourselves. So I'll just stick with, being Native American, I'm inclined to tell you to join the party.
The truth is, at some point, somebody is going to mock you. Your whole, "I'm four-years-old and can't follow the conversation so I'll just stand here and stick my tongue out at anyone who voices an opinion that is not completely fabricated of my own design or that I simply do not like." Will not get you anywhere here. Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all full up here. Besides, maybe some of the stupid people will allow themselves to be bullied by your immature snobbery and spoiled-little-brat pouting.
We don't like your ill-thought-out plans and we don't want them. Grow up.
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This forum states: "Serious posts regarding serious topics."
Keep your mockery to yourselves; you don't see me mocking your cultures and homelands.
It does state that. Your ridiculous topic couldn't be considered "serious" by any thinking person.
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From your own website:
FedCom has chosen to occupy a section of roughly 17,600 km2 of equatorial rainforest adjacent to the western coast of Africa. Although FedCom claims this land, we do not at present hold any physical presence there, nor do we hold titles or deeds signifying ownership. The land in question is largely uninhabited, with only scattered tribal settlements. Its value to the existing government is minimal.
So you want to go into areas like The Congo, Zaire, or Nigeria and take 17,600 km2 of land from them? Do you have any idea of what type of bloody wars have been fought for years in these country's? Or maybe take it from the Ivory Cost, because there has never been any type of bloodshed there because of out side influence...
The idea of taking land from these countries to form your own little Jonestown is not only reckless and dangerous, but doomed to fail given the history of Africa western cost.
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Do you have any idea of what type of bloody wars have been fought for years in these countries?
Yes, we are well versed in the history of the region. The Great African War is one of the reasons why we decided to go to Africa.
The territory we have selected is sheltered from these hot spots, and such activity serves to divert attention away from our activities. At the same time, we will be close enough to provide assistance to the locals, and evacuate the refugees to safety.
We have been ironing out the details and reviewing the plan for years. We know what we are doing, and accept the risks.
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"FedCom has chosen to occupy a section of roughly 17,600 km2 of equatorial rainforest adjacent to the western coast of Africa. Although FedCom claims this land, we do not at present hold any physical presence there, nor do we hold titles or deeds signifying ownership. The land in question is largely uninhabited, with only scattered tribal settlements. Its value to the existing government is minimal."
So you want to go into areas like The Congo, Zaire, or Nigeria and take 17,600 km2 of land from them? Do you have any idea of what type of bloody wars have been fought for years in these country's? Or maybe take it from the Ivory Cost, because there has never been any type of bloodshed there because of out side influence...
The idea of taking land from these countries to form your own little Jonestown is not only reckless and dangerous, but doomed to fail given the history of Africa western cost.
What?
Who gives a shit if the value to 'existing governments' is minimal! What about the value to those 'scattered tribal settlements'?
Are you really serious? You've got to be shitting me!
I'm Ojibwe. "We were nomads once. Little gods in Big Mountains. Because we were few, they cared not for us and made us walk to where we wanted not to go." How many times have I heard my Great Aunt say this?
I don't give a flying rat's ass about the 'existing governments'. And you are NOT out to protect those settlements, so DON'T try to feed me that shit. If you were out to protect them, you'd leave them the hell alone, and stay the hell off their land!
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I don't give a flying rat's ass about the 'existing governments'. And you are NOT out to protect those settlements, so DON'T try to feed me that shit. If you were out to protect them, you'd leave them the hell alone, and stay the hell off their land!
Then who would stop the rebels when they come to burn their villages, rape the women, murder the men, and kidnap the children to be forced into servitude as sex slaves or child soldiers, eh?
In northeast Congo, the women spend every night hiding in the banana trees groves to keep from being raped. They are afraid to sleep in their own homes. Rape is a weapon of war in this area.
I suppose people like YOU want these things to continue indefinitely. "Oh, it's not our war... We can't intervene, so we'll just let them get tied to a tree and disemboweled... We'll watch it on CNN, but since we can't do anything about the injustice, we'll just feel sorry for a minute, then go to McDonald's for a Big Mac."
And you speak about what is right and wrong... :x
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From wikipedia (because I still refuse to visit your spamilicious site)
- 2007, December: Debates within FedCom begin to question the land claims in Australia, and the government begins to explore additional alternative locations
- 2008, January: FedCom abandons prospects of claiming land in Australia, and sets its sights firmly on west-central Africa
We have been ironing out the details and reviewing the plan for years. We know what we are doing, and accept the risks.
Translation: We have been fucked up in our heads playing little games on the interwebs pretending to be nation-building when we really have only done some test on weapons that we shouldn't be playing with and we failed miserably at each of them. We do, however, accept our own [insert derogatory self evaluation here].
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The location and motivation changed. The plan to create a new nation has not changed in over 15 years.
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No, perhaps not. However, your claim of caring for the people of Africa certainly has.
You're a pathetic opportunist who wishes to play on the sympathies of those who would be led to feel guilty for living in the most prosperous nation on the planet. That's why you've been regarded with such disdain since your first post, here. And, I'm sure that any other site where you've posted your SPAM with a modicum of intelligence has greeted you similarly.
Go touch yourself.
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Then who would stop the rebels when they come to burn their villages, rape the women, murder the men, and kidnap the children to be forced into servitude as sex slaves or child soldiers, eh?
In northeast Congo, the women spend every night hiding in the banana trees groves to keep from being raped. They are afraid to sleep in their own homes. Rape is a weapon of war in this area.
I suppose people like YOU want these things to continue indefinitely. "Oh, it's not our war... We can't intervene, so we'll just let them get tied to a tree and disemboweled... We'll watch it on CNN, but since we can't do anything about the injustice, we'll just feel sorry for a minute, then go to McDonald's for a Big Mac."
And you speak about what is right and wrong... :x
I support REAL organizations that are CURRENTLY making a change and doing REAL things to protect the tribal communities, instead pissing people off in a web forum.
Getting tied to a tree and being disemboweled by an opposing tribe is actually a very honorable way to die in some cultures.
I don't watch CNN.
I CAN do something about the injustice, but is certainly isn't supporting a nation that doesn't exist that lays claim to land it does not own.
I don't feel sorry for anyone. Pity is a useless emotion that only encourages stupidity and wallowing.
And finally...
I don't eat MacDonald's. I think MacDonald's is poison no one should put in their bodies. And I don't support large, international, capitalistic, culture-forcing, machine industries, since they crush local agriculture and economies.
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Getting tied to a tree and being disemboweled by an opposing tribe is actually a very honorable way to die in some cultures.
And I suppose you think being raped by 20 men before they disembowel you is an honorable tradition...
I CAN do something about the injustice, but is certainly isn't supporting a nation that doens't exist that lays claim to land it does not own.
Per requirements laid down by the Montevideo Convention, FedCom IS a real nation. Foreign recognition is NOT a prerequisite to nationhood, and most nations do not actually own the land within their borders: their citizens do. National borders are created through treaties, usually preceded by military action. Somebody does not have to buy rights to the property first: a government takes it, and if they can defend it, it is theirs.
I don't feel sorry for anyone. Pity is a useless emotion that only encourages stupidity and wallowing.
Agreed; pity is useless and makes a person weak, but most people are more emotional.
I don't eat MacDonald's. I think MacDonald's is poison no one should put in their bodies.
Good. Too bad more Americans don't agree with you...
I have boycotted the trash they serve at McDonald's for many years.
And I don't support large, international, capitalistic, culture-forcing, machine industries, since they crush local agriculture and economies.
Neither do I.
If you think FedCom is a capitalist nation, you could not be further from the truth. We are egalitarian socialists. Even though we do not agree with their philosophy, communists make better friends than greedy self-centered capitalists.
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And I think we understand you just fine. We mock you because we DO understand you and we think you are poorly prepared...
Your understanding is a mere delusion, and you have no idea how prepared or dedicated we are.
Your ridiculous topic couldn't be considered "serious" by any thinking person.
Regardless, it is serious, and was presented as an informative announcement. Your agreement is unnecessary, and does not change reality.
Did you READ any of the posts in this forum before vomitting up a thread like this?
I did, and have yet to find anything on this forum at least half as intelligent as this topic.
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I'm confused now, but I think that was you're point.
The territory we have selected is sheltered from these hot spots, and such activity serves to divert attention away from our activities.
Then who would stop the rebels when they come to burn their villages
Which is it? Are you going to be sheltered from the deep shit? Or are you wading right out into the middle of it, like a the "real heroes" you're making yourselves out to be?
Oh, and by the way,
Regardless, it is serious, and was presented as an informative announcement. Your agreement is unnecessary, and does not change reality.
Reality is a question of belief. Seriousness is a question of choice. I choose to laugh at your foolishness, and I believe you are fools.
You're right, my agreement is unnecessary. And so is anyone else's apparently.
But that does not change reality.
All of you are idiots.
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Per requirements laid down by the Per requirements laid down by the Montevideo Convention, FedCom IS a real nation.
Oh? Really? You don't even pass the first requirement of the first test!
The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.
You don't have a "permanent population". Hell, you don't even have a transitory population.
Secondly, you fail the next part, too. You may have defined a territory, but you have no legal claim to it.
Foreign recognition is NOT a prerequisite to nationhood, and most nations do not actually own the land within their borders: their citizens do.
And yet FedCom can claim neither.
National borders are created through treaties, usually preceded by military action.
Please identify the treaty whereby FedCom acquired the land they claim as their own.Somebody does not have to buy rights to the property first: a government takes it, and if they can defend it, it is theirs.,
Oh? I suppose the Louisiana Purchase, the purchase of Manhattan, and Alaska - among others - were wastes of money, then?
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The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.
Oh good, so SOMEBODY's agreement is necessary. :lol:
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Which is it? Are you going to be sheltered from the deep shit? Or are you wading right out into the middle of it, like a the "real heroes" you're making yourselves out to be?
Our nation's borders are sheltered from the violence by several other nations who are not part of the fighting. The safe evacuation of refugees from these areas is also a top priority.
To put it in the simplest way, we intend to escort the refugees from the war zones to safety in our new nation, saving their lives and giving them new hope.
The offer is open and free: the refugees can choose to make the journey or stay in danger: it is their choice alone. We are NOT barbarian Americans prodding the natives at gunpoint along a bloody trail in a forced march! We want to give these people a second chance at life. For those who relocate, FedCom will offer citizenship, suitable residence, sustenance, and employment in a trade of their choice. They will have the opportunity to participate in our nation. If they decide not to participate and help FedCom grow, they will simply be shown the way to our neighbor; there is nothing compelling them to stay in FedCom if they do not wish to.
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Please identify the treaty whereby FedCom acquired the land they claim as their own.
Please identify the treaty whereby Kosovo acquired the land they claim as their own.
They didn't: they just lived there long enough to call it "their land", then sent a declaration of independence when they got sick of Serbia's attitude.
FedCom has always planned to follow a similar route: move in, build, live in peace, and tally up the grievances and arguments we have with what we call the "host nation". Then, when we can't stand the host's demands any longer, and we have the military power to hold our ground, we send our own declaration of independence, and brace for the fallout. And just for the record, we are not trying to copy Kosovo (I just use it as a recent example of how a new nation can be made); technically, the goal of FedCom sovereignty is older than the Baltic Wars that spawned the current situation with Kosovo. And yes, FedCom does support their independence, since Serbia voided the social contract when they attacked the Albanians living there.
There is MUCH more than that, but that is the smallest a stripped-down summary can get.
To answer your question:
Since FedCom has not yet delivered a declaration of independence, such a treaty has not been written yet.
I suppose the Louisiana Purchase, the purchase of Manhattan, and Alaska - among others - were wastes of money, then?
I said "Somebody does not have to buy rights to the property first".
A purchase CAN be a means to expand territory, but it is NOT a means to create a new nation. Buying the land beforehand is just a waste of time, since a private land purchase is little more than a lease from the local government.
Owning land grants you no legal basis for justifying secession.
Oh good, so SOMEBODY's agreement is necessary. :lol:
No, it isn't. Recognition as a sovereign state is not required for a state to exist as such.
Every nation on the planet could suddenly say that North Korea is not a nation, yet it will remain a de facto sovereign state. That fact cannot change with mere words.
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Does your failure to address my other points constitute concession of those points?
If so, your argument is lost.
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Look! He's using Latin again!
The more you type, the more like a barbarian you sound. In fact, you're starting to sound eeriely LIKE the barbarian America that forced the Ojibwe up into Canada. Keep digging please. The hole needs to be 6' x 6' x 4'.
(Oh, no, no. You misunderstand. Really we ARE here to help. We know the winter is hard on you, so here, have some nice blankets, and this unique beverage we brought with us helps to keep you warm! What? Our military force? That barbed-wire fence? Oh nevermind them. They're just here to guard you from other attacking tribes. No really! We want peace!)
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Does your failure to address my other points constitute concession of those points?
Not at all.
I already pointed out that owning a title to the land is not a requirement to claiming the land. In fact, throughout history, a new nation is almost always created from land that another government had already claimed.
FedCom's permanent population does currently reside within our defined territory, but there is nothing in the Convention that says a population must reside within the defined borders. Of course, this is a point we aim to rectify as soon as possible. Most of our citizens will have relocated to our African territory within a few years...
Both of your points assume that FedCom recognizes the Montevideo Convention as law (when we clearly never signed it). Quoting the Convention is merely an easy way of making a point, since it is a well known and widely accepted document. Technically, FedCom is not a party to any international treaties or organizations, and is not bound to any of them or so-called "international law". Yet, at the same time, as a prospective member of the international community, we respect as many of these conventions and laws as possible.
The more you type, the more like a barbarian you sound. In fact, you're starting to sound eerily LIKE the barbarian America that forced the Ojibwe up into Canada.
Nonsense. You are using scare tactics.
We have no intention of forcing any natives anywhere. Our offer to the locals is simple: join our project and reap the rewards, or keep living as you currently are and we will leave you in peace. No strings are attached.
We are not imperialist conquerers, but if you don't want to listen to that, you don't have to. You can remain ignorant and wrong if you like.
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Keep digging, it's not deep enough yet.
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Not at all.
Please, by all means, take all the time you need, then.
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And now, something completely different.
DENNIS: Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis
for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate
from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: Well, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just
'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some
moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
ARTHUR: Shut up, will you. Shut up!
DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help!
I'm being repressed!
ARTHUR: Bloody peasant!
DENNIS: Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh?
That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it,
didn't you?
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Please, by all means, take all the time you need, then.
I have already addressed all your points. I am not about to begin repeating myself for the likes of you.
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The likes of me? Whatever is that supposed to mean? Is that a veiled insult?
You've not addressed several of my points. I, however, am not above a direct insult as you may have noticed. So, dipshit, I'll list those points that you've yet to address.
What makes you believe that you can export your style of governance to another part of the world?
I'd love to know which existing nation is going to allow you to change their borders without bloodshed. -- You've potentially addressed this indirectly as you've stated that you intend to succeed from a nation and fight the good fight until you prevail. I just want to make sure that you intended to convey that message. Because, as you are well aware, the warlords of the nations you are likely to encounter will rape your women and disembowel them while they're tied to the very banana trees that they were hiding in, regardless of whether it's your new nation or the existing tribes that are putting up the resistance to their continued success in the region.
You don't give a shit about the people of Africa. You never have. All you're looking for is land on the continent to claim as your own so that you can build your stupid communist utopia.
You're a pathetic opportunist who wishes to play on the sympathies of those who would be led to feel guilty for living in the most prosperous nation on the planet.
You don't have a "permanent population". Hell, you don't even have a transitory population.
Secondly, you fail the next part, too. You may have defined a territory, but you have no legal claim to it.
Your comment regarding what makes FedCom a real nation was weak at best. You sited the Montevideo Convention as your basis of recognition, then when called on the carpet regarding the requirements under that same document, you said...
"Both of your points assume that FedCom recognizes the Montevideo Convention as law (when we clearly never signed it). Quoting the Convention is merely an easy way of making a point, since it is a well known and widely accepted document. "
Isn't it nasty of me to point out that you're a weak debater?
Go ahead, call me names. I've lowered the standard to that point.
Now, allow me to bring up some other questions, since I'm in a mood to type.
What is the purpose of presenting your original post here on geekforum.org? You claim it wasn't SPAM. What was the purpose, then?
I assume that since you're part of the 'population' (I'd love to see your definition of that word for the purposes of supporting your argument) of FedCom, you've given up your citizenship within the United States and that you're currently here on a Green Card or some other type of Visa. Would that be correct?
Why is your top level domain that of the country Nauru? If you're recognized as a nation, certainly you would have your own top level domain, right? Oh! Wait, I got it! all ".com" domains are that of FedCom, right?
And, finally, why do you persist?
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He persists because he hasn't reached the proper depth yet. He's nailed the 6' x 4', but he's not 6' deep yet.
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This has to be an elaborate troll. We've got everything we need.
- hay guyz I CARE MORE THAN YOU about Africa
- To prove how much smarter I am than you plebes, here's some Latin I saw somebody type once on my Dragonball Z forum in the "Vegita\Goku who has the biggest dick?" thread
- I'm not going to address any points I don't already have canned responses for and did I mention how much of a better person I am than you are yet?
- aaaaaaaannnnnnnd what would be complete without the "I AM SO MUCH BETTER THAN YOU I DON'T NAME CALL ERGO I WIN RATIONAL ARGUMENTS AGAINST ME BE DAMNED"
- Plus, KKKaptialism
In before OMG UR SO MEANZ I'M LEAFING 4EVA!!1!!
I have already addressed all your points. I am not about to begin repeating myself for the likes of you.
Yeah, man, you tell us. Fuck having to try to actually get your point across in a non-douchbag, condescending way.
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You forgot,
"I'm right and you're wrong, but I don't have to prove it to you, you don't have accept it, but I have to keep insisting my point, because it's the only point I know how to make and that makes me right and you wrong. :-P"
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I let you live long enough to state your case and defend yourself. Now you're fast becoming an annoying asshole. If you cannot state your case and defend it on its merits (which WILL be tested here) without insulting -veiled or otherwise- my regular members; then move on, or I will ban you from the site permanently. Taking into consideration the minds and brainpower registered on this site, your loss would be HUGE.
There will be no further warnings.
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The loss to you would be much larger than the loss of you, FedCom d00d.
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I've wanted to take over a small country myself for awhile now. I'm certain I could succeed. I've done it several times already on the XboX.
This Fedcom doesn't sound very stout militarily; maybe I should start saving. . .
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I've wanted to take over a small country myself for awhile now. I'm certain I could succeed. I've done it several times already on the XboX.
This Fedcom doesn't sound very stout militarily; maybe I should start saving. . .
I have some relatives that are uphappy with their current habitats, and who are capable of hand-fashioning weapons (fire-arms included). We're cheap(err... I was going to put a disclaimer here, but then I realized that it's probably true all around), and it's a defined populus. Oh, and I know a few private militia members as well! Though that might get a little pricey. :wink:
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:-D We should work this out while they argue over the new FISA bill...
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Absolutely! I know plenty of people who are all for fuckers getting a taste of their own medicine! The entire Scottish/Danish side of my family infact. (the German/Polish side just wants to see something get blown up, so as long as there are pyrotechnics involved, I'm sure we'll have them) :evil:(Did I mention I have a large family? Hooray for the North American Hybrids!)
I also know a few anarchists who would be in just to see an organization get fucked... and as long as you leave some trees lying around, I know some environmentalists who could really get the green community to back you!
:lol:
We can let the politicians hash out the details later, right Terminator_484?
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I'm sorry, I have to ask...
Who are you again? In what way do you represent this 'nation' of yours?
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Maybe you should just build a geodesic dome in Antarctica. Most of it is still unclaimed, and nobody would be allowed to send troops in to massacre you (can't say that for Africa).
Anyway if you really were a radical socialist/anarchist/commie/whatever out to improve the conditions of the African people, a good way to do this would be through EMPOWERING the disadvantaged, not jacking their land.
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Regardless, it is serious, and was presented as an informative announcement. Your agreement is unnecessary, and does not change reality.
On the contrary. I'm a moderator on this forum. Reality is by definition up to me and those like me here.
I did, and have yet to find anything on this forum at least half as intelligent as this topic.
Then you didn't look very far.
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Did he run away?
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This was a joke, right? Guy comes in and says, 'You know how Africa was totally fucked up by colonialism? Well, to fix all that, we're starting a new colony! Send us money!'
I lolled.
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I though it was a joke when I went to their little website and found out they want to make their capitol city named Valhalla. How much more cliché can you get?
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You can hear a slightly altered version of their national anthem here (http://www.zombo.com).
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Now that's a nation I could get behind. Just think of all one could do there.
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I looked at the site, and at the forums.
I don't know if "joke" is the right word, but it's not real.
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...but it's not real.
I assure you, it most certainly is. FedCom is as real as any other micronation, if not more so.
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What makes you believe that you can export your style of governance to another part of the world?
Because we can, and will stop at nothing to be successful.
Beyond that, nothing.
I'd love to know which existing nation is going to allow you to change their borders without bloodshed. -- You've potentially addressed this indirectly as you've stated that you intend to succeed from a nation and fight the good fight until you prevail. I just want to make sure that you intended to convey that message.
None. We hope to avoid conflict, but we know our history, and expect things to turn out that way.
"Hope for the best; plan for the worst." (Not one of our mottos, but true enough.)
You don't give a shit about the people of Africa. You never have. All you're looking for is land on the continent to claim as your own so that you can build your stupid communist utopia.
Then what is this whole topic? A maskirovka? If I didn't give a shit about the people of Africa, I would never have posted.
Your comment regarding what makes FedCom a real nation was weak at best.
. . .
Isn't it nasty of me to point out that you're a weak debater?
I admit that debate is not my strong suite. I am an engineer and a soldier. I never wanted to turn this topic into a debate: YOU did that.
What is the purpose of presenting your original post here on geekforum.org? You claim it wasn't SPAM. What was the purpose, then?
A probe. I was curious to see if there was anybody on this community who was interested in micronations and new nation projects, and who would be interested in dropping by our forums to ask some intelligent questions.
Sadly, I seem to be mistaken. There is no intelligent life here...
I assume that since you're part of the 'population' of FedCom, you've given up your citizenship within the United States and that you're currently here on a Green Card or some other type of Visa. Would that be correct?
No, I am not here on a Visa or Green Card, and I have not formally renounced my US citizenship, because I have not yet visited a US Consulate on foreign soil to do so. That is one of the first things I shall do after stepping into Africa, though.
Why is your top level domain that of the country Nauru? If you're recognized as a nation, certainly you would have your own top level domain, right?
".CO.NR" is a domain hosting company, very much like ".CO.UK" is. It does not mean FedCom's website is hosted in Nauru. In fact, the domain just redirects to the website, which is actually hosted on Freewebs at the moment.
So what? We're thrifty, and the website is a low priority right now. We see things like this: we could either blow our wages on a paid host, or we spend them on vital supplies and equipment that serve a purpose in the real world. It's not much, but every little bit helps.
The TLD we have chosen is ".FC", which IS unclaimed. But the ISO will not give that up until FedCom is recognized and listed by the UN as a sovereign nation. Since we are not recognized, they refuse to let us have it. We are a patient people, and will get it eventually...
And, finally, why do you persist?
Good question...
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Don't you people already belong to the Battletech Universe?
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I assure you, it most certainly is. FedCom is as real as any other micronation, if not more so.
You're still here?
:roll:
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Don't you people already belong to the Battletech Universe?
Yes.
Yes, they do.
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Don't you people already belong to the Battletech Universe?
No.
The name is an unfortunate coincidence.
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From the site:
Caste System:
For organization purposes, to facilitate economic and industrial efficiency and cut waste, FedCom utilizes a loose caste system. With the exception of the Warrior caste, citizens are assigned a caste upon completion of their core education. IQ and aptitude tests are used to determine the optimal caste for any individual: the distinction is based entirely on mental factors, never physical ones. Once assigned a caste, citizens select a trade that suits them, and enter into an apprenticeship to hone their innate skills. The caste tests can be retaken once a year.
The whole purpose of this system is to provide a sense of purpose and self-worth to every individual, leaving none to question their existence alone. It also fuels aspirations and inspires a "can do" attitude, that anyone can reach their goals.
The five castes act as pillars, each supporting their own specialized facet of society. If any one fails, so do the others, as each compliments and strengthens each other and the whole.
The five castes are as follows:
Laborers -- machine operators and farmers, building the foundation of our future
Technicians -- mechanics and engineers, building the machines that keep us moving forward
Merchants -- traders and entrepreneurs, supporting and enhancing our economy
Scientists -- the great mind of society, solving problems and challenges with zeal
Warriors -- the sworn defenders of all, and steadfast rulers of our society
While all the other castes consist of civilian roles, the Warrior caste stands out as unique. Unlike the others, warriors are born into their caste: it is their birthright and their responsibility to fight for the rights of others, both on the battlefield and off. As warfare has often been called "a continuation of politics by other means", so the opposite holds true. Thus, the warriors are the champion defenders of the other castes, as well as the essence of our government.
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From the site:
Ethnic groups:
Caucasoid (european): 85.7%
Negroid (african): 14.3%
Languages: English (official), FedCom Phonetic English
Hey, dude! Say something in FedComish!
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No.
The name is an unfortunate coincidence.
You're a funny guy.
You put a lot of work into your site, but your forums are still pretty slow. You need more virtual embassies!
Say, how about this: What if we open up a Geekonia embassy?
Then, when we go to war, we can leave the embassy in a huff just like in real life!
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You're still here?
No, he is not currently. His membership has been revoked.
There is no intelligent life here...
I conveyed to him my displeasure with the insults, and assured him there would be no further warnings. I don know if he thought I was playing or what; but he's gone now.
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Oh, well.
I wanted to ask him which caste he put himself in.
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Should I unban him for the masses to feed?
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He's keeping it to this thread and we could have fun.
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Ok! :-)
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Sure!
He's mostly harmless.
And maybe we can have forum wars (http://z11.invisionfree.com/FedCom/)!!!
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ok... he's back in. Have fun! :-)
TernEmunator, you may sign in and post for now.
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BI am an engineer and a soldier.
You, sir, are no soldier. You are at best a militant, as you have no true government to fight for. And I wish you the best of luck fighting jungle warfare, it sucks. Take it from a true (former) soldier.
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Because we can, and will stop at nothing to be successful.
Beyond that, nothing.
Ok, George W. Whatever you say.
None. We hope to avoid conflict, but we know our history, and expect things to turn out that way.
"Hope for the best; plan for the worst." (Not one of our mottos, but true enough.)
So, you really offer nothing new to the people of Africa.
Then what is this whole topic? A maskirovka? If I didn't give a shit about the people of Africa, I would never have posted.
I'm quite sure that you hadn't given the good people of Africa a second thought until FedCom changed their land claim from Australia (Lord only knows why you'd want to start in the land of Hitler any way) to that of Africa.
I admit that debate is not my strong suite. I am an engineer and a soldier. I never wanted to turn this topic into a debate: YOU did that.
Good thing I did, too. Otherwise, you'd just look silly to the average thinking man. Now, instead, everyone can see what a fool you are.
A probe. I was curious to see if there was anybody on this community who was interested in micronations and new nation projects, and who would be interested in dropping by our forums to ask some intelligent questions.
Sadly, I seem to be mistaken. There is no intelligent life here...
Step up, young man. You can do better than that. Be honest for a change. You can admit that you were looking for money.
No, I am not here on a Visa or Green Card, and I have not formally renounced my US citizenship, because I have not yet visited a US Consulate on foreign soil to do so. That is one of the first things I shall do after stepping into Africa, though.
So, you're not really committed then. Got it.
".CO.NR" is a domain hosting company, very much like ".CO.UK" is. It does not mean FedCom's website is hosted in Nauru. In fact, the domain just redirects to the website, which is actually hosted on Freewebs at the moment.
Uh, huh. You've a lot to learn.
So what? We're thrifty, and the website is a low priority right now. We see things like this: we could either blow our wages on a paid host, or we spend them on vital supplies and equipment that serve a purpose in the real world. It's not much, but every little bit helps.
The TLD we have chosen is ".FC", which IS unclaimed. But the ISO will not give that up until FedCom is recognized and listed by the UN as a sovereign nation. Since we are not recognized, they refuse to let us have it. We are a patient people, and will get it eventually...
Good question...
Wow. That's... something.
How tall is a BattleMech any way?
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Oh, well.
I wanted to ask him which caste he put himself in.
That was going to be my next question as it was almost my first question.
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Ok, I joined the skinhead forums and asked a question.
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I'm quite sure that you hadn't given the good people of Africa a second thought until FedCom changed their land claim from Australia (Lord only knows why you'd want to start in the land of Hitler any way) to that of Africa.
I thought it was the land of the evil Kangaroo and cute, yet ferocious, Koala Bear.
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No, no! That's Austria! Put another shrimp on the barbie, mate!
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lol.. put meh Great White in the Barbie..
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If you do, you may want some hot sauce.
(http://www.peppers.com/images/products/ACFHh1Bo0.JPG)
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We are talking about Klaus Barbie here, right?
Just checking.
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No; Katja!
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HOLY CRAP! Did anyone else get a porntube.com popup after visiting that site?
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Not I, but most pop-ups dont make it threw my firefox.
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Anyway, here is the micronations.net (http://mnn.mncentre.net/site/) site, which explains what our friend is on about. And the Wikipedia page on micronations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronation).
Fairly deep geekdom (which to uninterested parties translates to "stupendous waste of time").
The problems I have with FedCom: (1)Racist/white supremacist underpinnings; (2) Authoritarian model of government; (3) The inventor takes himself far too seriously; (4) The inventor couldn't think of an original name for his country, and (4) Fraud (unlike some much more interesting micronations, FedCom has no actual territory with an actual population).
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See I'm sad now I thought this thread would be about that family that lives on an oil rig off the coast of Australia, or that one time that Pirate Bay wanted to found their own country to free the internets or whatever they do.
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The problems I have with FedCom: (1)Racist/white supremacist underpinnings; (2) Authoritarian model of government; (3) The inventor takes himself far too seriously; (4) The inventor couldn't think of an original name for his country, and (4) Fraud (unlike some much more interesting micronations, FedCom has no actual territory with an actual population).
I would like to add to ivan's list.
(6) False claims of heroism. If you just want to come off and start your own nation, fine (who doesn't?). But do it in your own backyard, not someone else's.
HOLY CRAP! Did anyone else get a porntube.com popup after visiting that site?
Yes. I did. I would also like to complain about the spamware that tried to eat my computer after I visited that sight.
How tall is a BattleMech any way?
Anywhere from 7 to 17 meters... wait that was rhetorical question wasn't it? Damn it! (I can't believe I knew that anyway.)
See I'm sad now I thought this thread would be about that family that lives on an oil rig off the coast of Australia, or that one time that Pirate Bay wanted to found their own country to free the internets or whatever they do.
Be patient, it will come. Besides, isn't Sealand off the coast of Suffolk, England?
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Ivan, since you joined over there to post, are there really 483 other Terminators over there.
Sounds scary.
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Nah. The site is pretty dead.
If they had a large, active membership, our friend woulndn't need to spam here.
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IT WASN'T SPAM, DAMN IT! HOW MANY TIMES (HUH? YELLING? OH. sorry) does he have to tell you. It was merely a probative invite to give him money.
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It was merely a probative invite to give him money.
:-o
That sounded dirty.
I don't usually have to pay for that. Generally, I can go somewhere and get it for free. :w:
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You can admit that you were looking for money.
That would help, but I came looking for future citizens.
I see there are none to be found here.
So, you're not really committed then.
Committed to the cause, yes.
Compulsive and impatient, no.
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So you are a recruiter, then? I should point out that if you are, you suck at it.
Your tactics should adapt to the environment. If people don't like your original presentation, you don't keep trying to beat it into them, generally you'll create more resistance to it that way (but you should know this already, being so keen on African politics and all). And you should get a little more versed in debate. If you're really "looking for future citizens", you should be prepared for a good round of Devil's Advocate, most intelligent people will want to tear a cause down before they support it. Your weak ability to defend an ideal you claim to be so committed to, brings, not only your conviction, but the cause itself, into question. The only thing you managed to convince me of, is that you are as foolish and self-centered as your website makes you out to be. You didn't change my mind in anyway, you just reinforced my original resolve. Stamping your feet and sticking out your bottom lip about it, will get you nowhere... except here. Here (and I speak from observation) it will get you ridiculed and mocked... and possibly banned.
By the way, if FedCom is paying you for this, you should take a pay cut.
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So you are a recruiter, then? I should point out that if you are, you suck at it.
I do. :-(
Our best motivational speaker is MIA right now, so I had to fill in. We're trying to double the citizen count by this summer. That's why I came here. It was just the next community on the tour...
Maybe if we change direction a bit:
How many people here think their government is corrupt and beyond repair? :-)
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I do. :-(
Our best motivational speaker is MIA right now, so I had to fill in. We're trying to double the citizen count by this summer. That's why I came here. It was just the next community on the tour...
Maybe if we change direction a bit:
How many people here think their government is corrupt and beyond repair? :-)
I think YOUR government is evil and beyond repair, you skinhead mudak.
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To wrap up some stuff:
I wanted to ask him which caste he put himself in.
Warrior. It's what I am at heart.
ok... he's back in. Have fun!
You didn't have to do that. I can see that nobody is interested around here.
And I wish you the best of luck fighting jungle warfare, it sucks. Take it from a true (former) soldier.
I know it sucks, and expect the mission to be harsh and dangerous. But thanks for the wish of luck. :-)
...Racist/white supremacist underpinnings...
That is utter horse shit.
Hey, dude! Say something in FedComish!
It's being called "Valhallic" now, and you have already seen some in our forum's header.
Your question has also been answered.
...your forums are still pretty slow.
With a half-dozen citizens, what do you expect? At least we have more than most other micronations; the majority of them are stuck with a population of one.
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That is utter horse shit.
No, it is not.
You set up a caste system based on -- what, merit? -- and boast a 14% minority of Africans in a nation on African soil. Then you name your capital city after an icon of white supremacy.
You're either a liar or the biggest goddam idiot ever.
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Can I vote?
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Wrap what up?
And nice touch... "next community on the tour"... makes us feel real special.
And why is your motivational speaker MIA, pray tell? Did he realize that W.A.S.P. was not the answer?
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He was stung by an Africanized spelling bee.
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HAHA!! Six of them, and one is "missing in . . . (usually the A stands for action...)...
"Man, y'all suck. I want to name it Mordor. I quit!" *leaves and goes home*
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And why is your motivational speaker MIA, pray tell?
Computer trouble. His laptop was on its last legs.
Step up, young man. You can do better than that. Be honest for a change.
Okay, you people asked for it...
...and boast a 14% minority of Africans in a nation on African soil. Then you name your capital city after an icon of white supremacy.
You're either a liar or the biggest goddam idiot ever.
I cannot count those who have not taken an oath of citizenship, dumbass.
Norse mythology is NOT an icon of white supremacy. FedCom does not have a racist problem, unlike you American bastards and your KKK terrorist pets.
Can I vote?
On what? FedCom politics?
Not unless you earn your citizenship, of course. :roll:
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That temporary ban cut me off from posting the last thing I wanted to say. I think now is a good time to finally say it, and finish my short stay on this pointless forum:
I let you live long enough to state your case and defend yourself. Now you're fast becoming an annoying asshole. If you cannot state your case and defend it on its merits (which WILL be tested here) without insulting -veiled or otherwise- my regular members; then move on, or I will ban you from the site permanently.
. . .
There will be no further warnings.
"Your" regular members waltz in and insult me, insult my culture, insult my allegiances, insult my nation, and insult my people, and you have the nerve tell me I can't return the favour to these assholes? Pot, Kettle, Black.
You are just like most forum admins: a fat-headed hypocrite with a personal double-standard on a power trip, complete with a chip on your shoulder the size of the Dead Sea.
Taking into consideration the minds and brainpower registered on this site, your loss would be HUGE.
As huge as a bacterium, perhaps, with comparable mental capacity.
I have seen no evidence that there is anything but condescending, patronizing, self-aggrandizing, I'm-13-and-angry-at-my-father nerds on this site.
The loss to you would be much larger than the loss of you, FedCom d00d.
Oh, I'm in tears at the thought of saying goodbye... really. :roll:
On the contrary. I'm a moderator on this forum. Reality is by definition up to me and those like me here.
Inflate the ego some more, why don't you?
...you skinhead mudak.
Capitalist dog.
I choose to laugh at your foolishness, and I believe you are fools.
We don't like your ill-thought-out plans and we don't want them.
You're still here? :roll:
I think I have seen all this stupid forum and the idiots that reside within it have to offer. I must say that it is indeed the worst, most pathetic forum and crowd that I have ever seen.
I have no reason to stay here, and will happily wrap up this circus. If, by any chance, anyone actually wants to ask a few intelligent questions, there are forum and email links on FedCom's website.
If it makes you jackasses feel better, ban me (again). I have said my peace, and you people have chosen not to listen. I did not come here to be the object of your petty amusement, nor am I interested in joining your pathetic little geek community.
It is clear that you nerds are perfectly happy to fuss with your pocket protectors and argue about utter nonsense while congratulating each other on the size of your e-penises.
I shall leave you idiots, and when you are still indulging in your immature hacker fantasies, throwing online birthday parties, talking about music, daydreaming, and having wet dreams about the newest MP3 players and X-box games, I will be fighting hard for freedom, safety, and self-determination.
You apathetic hypocritical retards are not the kind of people I would want to work with anyway, so I bid this forum farewell. Goodbye, and good riddance to the lot of you. :-D
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I cannot count
That's about right.
Go away, skinhead.
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Capitalist dog.
Good Lord! HE FINALLY BROUGHT THE FUNNAY!
Nice one.
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You have a culture? Where are you, Kansas City? Phoenix? Certainly you're not talkening about FedCom culture. Are you?
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One does not say his peace. One says his piece.
edit: We listened, we just chose not to imbibe.
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Well, we've seen better parting shots. But at least it's parting.
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"Man, y'all suck. I want to name it Mordor. I quit!" *leaves and goes home*
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of COURSE he's still here
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He think's going to end a conversation, by slamming the door... And he calls us unintelligent. *shakes head*
While we're name calling...
Here's one for thinking the Africans can't figure things out on their own,
Racist W.A.S.P.
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Moderators, let us know when he's back lurking in the thread. We know he will. That's what they do.
By the way, terminator, you should probably invest in some better forum software. While I'm not a script-kiddie hacker out to deface web sites, you have left yourself wide open to just that by using an out-dated severely security flawed forum package.
If you're going to go around spamming other forums, expect to have yours defaced. It will happen.
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You all leave him alone.
I want to hear how the six of them are going to take care of, what was it, 1700 sq km?
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Moderators, let us know when he's back lurking in the thread.
lol... he didnt leave until you posted that.
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I want to hear how the six of them are going to take care of, what was it, 1700 sq km?
I want to know how the six of them are going to DEFEND, what was it, 1700 sq km?
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Y'all mean five, right? Or did they find the other one?
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Oh, right, sorry.
The sixth is missing in... action... :-D
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I thought it was 17 THOUSAND, not 17 hundred. Regardless, it's quite a bit of land to cover. I hope they have mopeds or mules or something, 'cause that's a lot of land to cover on foot. If they don't have mopeds, they'll be WAY too tired to fight off invading warlords.
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I thought they were going to use BattleMechs!
(http://www.andy-stevenson.com/images/050624a.jpg)
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"Your" regular members waltz in and insult me, insult my culture, insult my allegiances, insult my nation, and insult my people, and you have the nerve tell me I can't return the favour to these assholes? Pot, Kettle, Black.
This really did make me laugh out loud. He and a group of five of his buddies got together and slapped together some shitty free website about an imaginary country they thought up and he takes it so damn SERIOUSLY too. It's like being back in third grade!
What's really funny is that he didn't respond to my post to him, which I thought was relatively well thought out and logical, and definitely took more time to type out than he deserved.
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This really did make me laugh out loud. He and a group of five of his buddies got together and slapped together some shitty free website about an imaginary country they thought up and he takes it so damn SERIOUSLY too. It's like being back in third grade!
Hehe, I remember playing Army as a kid, too. We kept it simple, though; just killing and blowing stuff up. We didn't get into nation building and such. Of course, there weren't any personal computers back in those days, so we never lost anyone in action.
"Your" regular members waltz in and insult me, insult my culture, insult my allegiances, insult my nation, and insult my people, and you have the nerve tell me I can't return the favour to these assholes? Pot, Kettle, Black.
lol.. insult "my" people... bahahaha!!!
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I did not come here to be the object of your petty amusement,
Ahhhhhh, okay. Here's the source of all this conflict.
See, you were wrong... you DID come here to be the object of our petty amusement.
This was all just a misunderstanding! :-D
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My mistake on the amount of land
Geography
FedCom currently claims an area of west-central African rainforest, totaling about 17,600 km2.
Good luck with the mopeds in that environment.
According to http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/Federated_Commonwealth they have four full citizens, three provisional citizens, and eight (count em' eight) political parties.
I think they need to add a Hardy party.
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"Your" regular members waltz in and insult me, insult my culture, insult my allegiances, insult my nation, and insult my people,
(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6758/cody2ed9.jpg)
Capitalist dog.
THE PROPHECY HAS COME TO PASS
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You mean he littered our forum?
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No, I think he means Termi is Italian.
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This really is the funniest thread to have come along in a long time. :lol:
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Maybe their nation came under attack and the enemies have severed their internet connection.
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His secret weapon: Steve Jobs' Reality Distortion Field.
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His secret weapon: Steve Jobs' Reality Distortion Field.
No, no, no. We've been over this. Their secret weapon is mopeds.