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Title: Best SEQUELS out there?
Post by: alecho on December 18, 2008, 05:06:53 PM
I just watched Terminator 2, an awesome sequel, but then watched Terminator 3, which pretty much destroyed the hype created by its prequel. Most movie sequels don't live up to its prequel. So! my question to you is...

What are the best sequels out there?

Any reply is appreciated! thanx in advance.  :-D
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Post by: Joe Sixpack on December 18, 2008, 05:09:08 PM
Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Post by: pbsaurus on December 18, 2008, 07:26:13 PM
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 is far better than the original.
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Post by: Anthrax-Smoothy on December 19, 2008, 08:22:08 AM
I liked The Dark Knight, in my opinion, it was better than Batman BeginsTerminator 2 is actually my favourite out of all of them.
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Post by: HeavyJay on December 19, 2008, 09:06:55 AM
If you're into foreign films, look for the forthcoming Der Untergang 2: Hitler Takes Manhattan.

Also, I've decided that my firstborn son won't be named "HeavyJay, Jr."  He'll be "HeavyJay: With a Vengeance."
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Post by: Anthrax-Smoothy on December 19, 2008, 09:33:41 AM
If you're into foreign films, look for the forthcoming Der Untergang 2: Hitler Takes Manhattan.

Also, I've decided that my firstborn son won't be named "HeavyJay, Jr."  He'll be "HeavyJay: With a Vengeance."

That actually made me giggle.

/applaud
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Post by: Min on December 19, 2008, 01:15:20 PM
Superman 2
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Post by: Telepathica on December 19, 2008, 01:33:26 PM
I really enjoyed Ghostbusters II...not at all to say that it's better than the first, but it was better than most sequels. Also, I found the sequel to Clerks to be extremely hilarious, but perhaps that's just me. I think it should have been made in black and white as the first one was, though. I like both of Scream's next films; the second and the third. I thought that it was an awesome trilogy with a bad ending. But, hey. I guess some people enjoy happiness in movies...not sure why. Another great trilogy? Back to the Future.

The worst sequel to anything is The X-Files: I Want to Believe. So what if it wasn't a direct sequel from The X-Files: Fight the Future. It was to the series. And being as big of an x phile as I am? To say that I hate it is saying a lot.
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Post by: Scheherazade on December 19, 2008, 02:19:24 PM
As far as epic sequels go, I'll say Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness.
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Post by: Wunderkind on December 19, 2008, 02:22:47 PM
I think I may be the only person in existence who liked "The Chronicles of Riddick".

Also "The Empire Strikes Back" was still better than "A New Hope".

EDIT: "Star Trek IV" was also better than the ones before it, IMO. However, I have yet to see the latest one. I will probably be forced to weigh special-effects and graphics against content and sheer sentimentilism and that may tip a personal scale for me.
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Post by: xolik on December 19, 2008, 03:48:15 PM
Star Whores 2: The Wrath of Cock.


Totally better than the original.
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Post by: Double Botch on December 20, 2008, 10:16:58 AM
I think I may be the only person in existence who liked "The Chronicles of Riddick".

Also "The Empire Strikes Back" was still better than "A New Hope".

EDIT: "Star Trek IV" was also better than the ones before it, IMO. However, I have yet to see the latest one. I will probably be forced to weigh special-effects and graphics against content and sheer sentimentilism and that may tip a personal scale for me.

Wunderkind == Win

Also, Indiana Jones Temple of Doom and Last Crusade. Crystal Skull got George Lucased into being subpar.

Die Hard 2, With a Vengeance, and Live Free or Die Hard were all worthwhile sequels.

Oh and Short Circuit 2 and Weekend at Bernie's 2 were ok too.
Title: Re: Best SEQUELS out there?
Post by: HeavyJay on December 20, 2008, 11:04:17 AM
Quote from: Double Botch
Crystal Skull got George Lucased into being subpar.

Yeah, it certainly wasn't those Star Wars prequels that made me hate Lucas.  Oh wait, it was.

Quote from: Double Botch
...and Live Free or Die Hard were all worthwhile sequels.

Are you shitting me?  The plot was ridiculous, and John McClane may as well have been giving out candy canes.  They pussed him up for this edition just to get the more family-friendly film rating.  Gabe and Tycho sum it up:

(http://jaylindsey.us/pics/pa.jpg)

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Oh and Short Circuit 2 and Weekend at Bernie's 2 were ok too.

Stop...just stop.  Dancing voodoo Bernie?  "Los Lobos?"  HOW COULD YOU ENJOY EITHER OF THOSE FILMS?

* HeavyJay explodes
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Post by: Scheherazade on December 20, 2008, 12:50:29 PM
Wunderkind == Win

Also, Indiana Jones Temple of Doom and Last Crusade. Crystal Skull got George Lucased into being subpar.

Die Hard 2, With a Vengeance, and Live Free or Die Hard were all worthwhile sequels.

Oh and Short Circuit 2 and Weekend at Bernie's 2 were ok too.

Agree with Die Hard 2 and With a Vengeance, but other than that you're wrong.

Also, if Crystal Skull tore away your respect for Lucas, I suggest you watch Howard the Duck.
Title: Re: Best SEQUELS out there?
Post by: elias1955 on December 21, 2008, 01:09:58 AM
PotC2, The Second Mummy movie, 28 Weeks Later, Austin Powers 2, and Jurrasic Park 2 and 3 are pretty fun. And, of course, Terminator 2 is awesome, and I kinda like 3 as well.  Super psyched to see 4 next summer too.
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Post by: Wunderkind on December 21, 2008, 01:44:31 AM
"Jurassic Park 2" & "3" pissed me off because there was that awesome shot in the first movie where the embryoes(?) were buried in ooze, and they had all these options for freaky evolving mutations in the sequels, but then, you never heard of the embryoes(?) buried in the ooze ever again. It nags me to this day.

"PotC2" was ok, but I was severely disappointed in "PotC3" because I kept hoping they would kill off Orlando Bloom who I happen to think was a sissy through the entire series, then they made the little sissy immortal and I was all "W-T-F?".

"Live Free or Die Hard" had some good one-liners but the storyline sucked like someone needed to pay the rent.

Now that I think about it, I kinda liked "Spiderman 3" a little more than the first one, but "Spiderman 2" made me want to gnaw my hand off.
Also, "X-men 2" lived up to the original IMO and "X-men 3" impressed me because they actually killed Jean Gray, which I wasn't certain they were going to do at first.
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Post by: elias1955 on December 21, 2008, 02:08:57 AM
Agree on the PotC3 thing. ;P Will Turner is just a pansy boy!

I've disowned Spiderman 3... not because of the emo-peter parker thing... but because they just ruined Venom for me. Topher Grace is a PERFECT choice for Eddie Brock... but not for Venom. And the rendering they did of him felt more like Carnage tahn Venom to me... if Carnage had a person inside of him, that it.  Venom is supposed to be HUGE! And have a deep, growling voice! Bleh.

X2 and X3 are both better than the first, though I do have my beefs with X3... Namely,. they made Angel a pansy-boy (they ruined my favourite X-Person!) and the whole final battle very much felt like it was filmed on a stage. I don't expect them to go out of their way and rennovate Alcatraz for a comic book movie, I just wish I hadn't been so aware that I was watching a movie at that point.

I don't know if anyone has seen the new Wolverine trailer, but it looks to be a VERY promising sequel/prequel.
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Post by: pbsaurus on December 21, 2008, 02:11:35 AM
Return of the Living Dead is a sequel with the best line evar!!11!
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Post by: Min on December 21, 2008, 09:17:44 AM
"Jurassic Park 2" & "3" pissed me off because there was that awesome shot in the first movie where the embryoes(?) were buried in ooze, and they had all these options for freaky evolving mutations in the sequels, but then, you never heard of the embryoes(?) buried in the ooze ever again. It nags me to this day.

Well of course that couldn't have come up in the second because The Lost World was based on the book.  Besides, the embryos couldn't live under mud in a canister.  That was the point of them showing that they were lost.  There was no third Jurassic Park book and that's what I don't like about the third movie.  I don't even know if I saw it.  They're still working on the fourth movie now. 

Jurassic Park was about math, not about dinosaurs.  That's what I loved so much about it.  The sequels were not.  That's why they're no good.
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Post by: Wunderkind on December 21, 2008, 02:11:07 PM
Well of course that couldn't have come up in the second because The Lost World was based on the book.  Besides, the embryos couldn't live under mud in a canister.  That was the point of them showing that they were lost. 

Where the realist in me agrees with you and gets the point, the sci-fi fan in me wanted freaky mutated monsters.

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Post by: 12AX7 on December 21, 2008, 03:35:05 PM
FMM FTW!
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Post by: 12AX7 on December 21, 2008, 03:36:44 PM
...ya know; as soon as I saw that posted I realized the implications were it to be quoted and used for evil purposes.
Title: Re: Best SEQUELS out there?
Post by: Demosthenes on December 21, 2008, 05:01:58 PM
Edward Penishands II (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0136128/)
Title: Re: Best SEQUELS out there?
Post by: Double Botch on December 22, 2008, 09:11:16 AM
Yeah, it certainly wasn't those Star Wars prequels that made me hate Lucas.  Oh wait, it was.

Are you shitting me?  The plot was ridiculous, and John McClane may as well have been giving out candy canes.  They pussed him up for this edition just to get the more family-friendly film rating.  Gabe and Tycho sum it up:

Stop...just stop.  Dancing voodoo Bernie?  "Los Lobos?"  HOW COULD YOU ENJOY EITHER OF THOSE FILMS?

* HeavyJay explodes

Star Wars, already a given that they blew, figured we were all on the same page. George Lucased was a reference to how epic the prequel fuck up was and that it was simply continuing into his other movies.

Live Free or Die Hard, I watch that movie like I watched Hackers. Of course all the jargon and tech is wrong but it was still total Die Hard. He killed a chopper with a car and shot himself in a pre-existing gunshot wound to kill the bad guy.

Short Circuit 2 and Bernie's 2. Ever heard of the term Awesomely Bad? Aside from the fact that I saw them when I was kid, they are great MST3K fodder as an adult.


Also, if Crystal Skull tore away your respect for Lucas, I suggest you watch Howard the Duck.

Again, Awesomely Bad. Loved Howard the Duck.

If you want a really bad sequel, go watch Highlander 2. Aside from Sean Connery returning for some deus ex machina there was nothing about that movie that deserved to be made.
Title: Re: Best SEQUELS out there?
Post by: Wunderkind on December 22, 2008, 09:19:27 AM
For some of us, the meer existence of Sean Connery in a film makes it worth watching. To be honest, I don't remember a damned thing about "Highlander 2" except that Sean Connery was hawt.
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Post by: Double Botch on December 22, 2008, 09:23:45 AM
If that's all you remember about that film then you are blessed with excellent selective memory. Because the rest of the movie is bad.
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Post by: Scheherazade on December 22, 2008, 05:24:21 PM
For some of us, the meer existence of Sean Connery in a film makes it worth watching. To be honest, I don't remember a damned thing about "Highlander 2" except that Sean Connery was hawt.

Quite agreed. I actually enjoyed The Name of the Rose despite Christian Slater's terrible acting and gross British accent because Sean Connery was...well, he was Sean Connery.
Title: Re: Best SEQUELS out there?
Post by: HeavyJay on December 22, 2008, 07:22:00 PM
I watched the second Fantastic Four film the other day.  I haven't seen the first one, so I really can't compare, but...dear God.  I wanted to put a brick through my television.

Susan Richard (nee Storm) should never have been played by Jessica Alba.  In the comics, she's not retarded.

Also?  Galactus is way more than just a cloud that eats planets.  He's the Devourer of Worlds, wielder of the Power Cosmic, and generally pants-shitteningly scary.
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Post by: elias1955 on December 22, 2008, 07:30:10 PM
I watched the second Fantastic Four film the other day.  I haven't seen the first one, so I really can't compare, but...dear God.  I wanted to put a brick through my television.

Susan Richard (nee Storm) should never have been played by Jessica Alba.  In the comics, she's not retarded.

Also?  Galactus is way more than just a cloud that eats planets.  He's the Devourer of Worlds, wielder of the Power Cosmic, and generally pants-shitteningly scary.

Ha, true. My guess is that they had a hard time "modernizing" Galactus... Though the villain himself is completely terrifying... he had a pretty stupid costume.

Highlander 2 didn't live by its own principle... "There can only be one"... one good Highlander. Anyone catch thet dtv sequel that came out a year or so ago? Awful... just awful.

I had another thought too... I think Hellboy 2 far outdoes its predecessor.
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Post by: pbsaurus on December 22, 2008, 07:32:52 PM
Hate Spielberg
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Post by: HeavyJay on December 22, 2008, 07:33:27 PM
Ha, true. My guess is that they had a hard time "modernizing" Galactus... Though the villain himself is completely terrifying... he had a pretty stupid costume.

I really would've preferred a comic book-version Galactus, even if it looked terrible.  Hell, I would've preferred a giant wombat over what the filmmakers used.  At least marsupials are kinda creepy.
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Post by: Double Botch on December 23, 2008, 04:14:16 AM
Highlander 2 didn't live by its own principle... "There can only be one"... one good Highlander. Anyone catch thet dtv sequel that came out a year or so ago? Awful... just awful.

Haha yeah. Highlander: The Source. I can't assemble a sentence that will do justice to just how awful it really was.
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Post by: Wunderkind on December 23, 2008, 04:58:01 AM
Was it as bad as "Blair Witch Project II", because if you thought the first one sucked... I think my eyes actually started bleeding during the second one.
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Post by: Double Botch on December 23, 2008, 05:36:25 AM
I love my eyes and their blood too much to take the chance on the second one.

But yes it was probably that bad at least.
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Post by: Scheherazade on December 23, 2008, 01:11:44 PM
The worst sequels ever, in my opinion, are Jaws II-IV
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Post by: Wunderkind on December 23, 2008, 05:21:28 PM
... Jaws II-IV
Those aren't sequels. They are forms of cruel and unusual punishment.
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Post by: Bloodsau Sage on December 24, 2008, 09:09:41 AM
How did the Lord of the Rings go with you non-australasians? I know I'm about five years too late but I didn't have broadband then. Those don't really count as sequels do they? Considering they were all the same story, but did anyone actually like the first movie the most?
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Post by: Wunderkind on December 24, 2008, 11:36:32 PM
There some disappointments in the first movie, the second was my favourite and the third... let's just say sometimes it's better to let the movie end in a different place than the book. It's okay for a book to go on and tie up all the loose ends, but movies really need only one ending. I think Return of the King had like five endings. They should have picked one and thrown the rest in as a special feature.
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Post by: HeavyJay on December 25, 2008, 10:36:39 AM
My parents bought me the Planet of the Apes DVD set from Christmas.  I'd seen the first film countless times (and it's truly dear to my hear) but until last night I hadn't seen any of the sequels.

Last night I watched the first two sequels, Beneath the Planet of the Apes and Escape from the Planet of the Apes, and let me tell you...they're definitely worthy follow-ups.  There are some small inconsistencies and a few strange plot points, but all around, they manage to pack in as much raw emotion as the first entry in the series. 
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Post by: XArchistX on December 25, 2008, 05:37:41 PM
The Dark Knight, by far the best of the year.
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Post by: HeavyJay on December 27, 2008, 03:24:21 PM
I had time to watch the last two Apes sequels now that all the fa-la-la-la-fuss has calmed down.

Conquest of the Planet of the Apes was pretty darned good, with a lot of compelling dialogue and Roddy McDowall's best performance in the series.  It drags at certain points, but that's really my only complaint.

Battle for the Planet of the Apes, on the other hand...oh boy.  Tons of plot holes, cheesy dialogue, irritating characters and half-formed ideas.  Considering how much I loved the other three sequels,  this was a huge disappointment.
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Post by: Double Botch on December 27, 2008, 10:46:24 PM
Thank you for posting about the Apes flicks. I've been meaning to see them again. Netflix > cookies.