Topic: The Apparently Necessary Random Stuff Thread (Read 934688 times)

ivan · « **Reply #2275 on:** May 15, 2007, 05:55:54 PM »

Oh, and what pbS said about support network. Spot on. Aside from the Reagan-era disgorgement of our loony-bins, the chief reason for homelessness is the erosion of traditional family and village communities. I'm not calling for a return to the past, I'm just saying we need an effective and humane way to deal with a new problem.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #2276 on:** May 15, 2007, 05:56:26 PM »

There is also a point of no return for most. If they remain homeless long enough, there is no way they can return to society as we know it. I read about one study, I think it was in the Economist a couple years ago where neuroscientists have discovered structural changes in the chronically homeless. So the question is, did the homelessness cause the change, or was the defect there originally which led to the homelessness.

Vespertine · « **Reply #2277 on:** May 15, 2007, 05:59:34 PM »

Well, ivan, according to Evonus, you would be doing the right thing by society if you took that toothless, old, alcoholic grandma and put a bullet in the back of her head.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #2278 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:02:15 PM »

No according to him it would be a waste of resources. Afterall the bullet has a cost.

Agent_Tachyon · « **Reply #2279 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:02:30 PM »

Quote from: ivan on May 15, 2007, 05:55:54 PM

Oh, and what pbS said about support network. Spot on. Aside from the Reagan-era disgorgement of our loony-bins, the chief reason for homelessness is the erosion of traditional family and village communities. I'm not calling for a return to the past, I'm just saying we need an effective and humane way to deal with a new problem.

I'm not sure that cities are a good idea at all. I'd prefer to see people in smaller groups of around a hundred to 150. I think that alone would fix a lot of social problems. I think that it would be a lot harder to ignore the suffering of, or even kill, somebody that you see every single day.

12AX7 · « **Reply #2280 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:07:18 PM »

From the vantage point of my advanced years, I submit you must have an entirely different brand of 'homeless' people inhabiting the West Coast. Please re-read my post. I stated any one of these homeless people who actually are handicapped should have help. However, as I stated a few sentences later, EVERY SINGLE PANHANDLER (not "most", not "nearly all", not "usually" - I mean EVERY SINGLE TIME) I've come across is more than capable of aquiring a job. I've YET to be accosted by a mentally OR physically handicapped person asking me for money.
I actually think we're talking about two different peoples. You keep mentioning handicapped, and alcoholic grandmas and whatnot. Sure; help them out. I'm talking about the fucker who is more muscular than ME; yet is stepping in my face asking me for money as I come out of the convience store.

Agent_Tachyon · « **Reply #2281 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:16:31 PM »

Oh no, fuck those guys. Hell, introduce them to Evonus, they're annoying.

ivan · « **Reply #2282 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:26:02 PM »

12AX7, that guy might be more muscular, but, as pbS pointed out, is mentally not capable of holding down a regular job. There is a fine line between a loser and someone who just can't do it, but there is that line. The loser will eventually get off the streets, because he can. Those that can't will stay on the streets until they are removed.

When there's only a few homeless here and there, no one sweats it. But when there are entire refridgerator box towns under the freeway overpass, and people have to step over unconscious bodies on their way to work, we've got a problem. Insisting that these people should get a job does nothing. Jailing them is out of the question. Offering food and shelter as a charity seems to prolong the condition. Shooting them in the head is only feasible in the mind of a nitwit. What do we do?

There may, of course, be a Malthusian solution.

Nosferatu · « **Reply #2283 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:32:29 PM »

I realy don't know if anything along these lines exists or has been tried, and I guess it's down to personal opinion whether you think it'd be a good idea or not. There's definately arguments for both sides, regardless, what about homeless recruitment agencys?

A place homeless people can use to get thier mail, calls, paychecks, get scrubbed up and can help them find a job working for people who are actively seeking homeless employes in order to better thier own community. It wouldn't be great work, and you'd have to expect minimum wage, but it'd be a foot on the ladder.

It would of course all rest of thier being empolyers actively seeking homeless empoyes and homeless people actively seeking work. =/

xolik · « **Reply #2284 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:32:55 PM »

They live that way because they like it that way. And if Limbaugh says it, it MUST be true!

Vespertine · « **Reply #2285 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:48:37 PM »

Quote from: Vespertine on May 15, 2007, 05:10:37 PM

Hey! Who the hell smited me today? And why?

Okay you bastards. I started the day with 7. When #8 happened, I asked the above question. Evidently the above question prompted screwing around. 'Fess up. Who did #8, and who's been screwing around with numbers 9 and 10?

ivan · « **Reply #2286 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:51:53 PM »

Maybe they were love-smites.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #2287 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:52:51 PM »

That's purely a BC phenomenon.

Evonus · « **Reply #2288 on:** May 15, 2007, 06:58:33 PM »

Quote from: ivan on May 15, 2007, 05:51:17 PM

Let me ask this another way: What kind of society are we that can look at a toothless old alcoholic grandma lying in the streets in a puddle of her own urine, and think this is somehow preferable to bunging her up in an institution?

One that doesn't like to waste money on worthless people.

Quote from: Vespertine on May 15, 2007, 05:59:34 PM

Well, ivan, according to Evonus, you would be doing the right thing by society if you took that toothless, old, alcoholic grandma and put a bullet in the back of her head.

Nah, that should be the police's job.

ivan · « **Reply #2289 on:** May 15, 2007, 07:08:53 PM »

Quote from: 12AX7 on May 15, 2007, 06:07:18 PM

From the vantage point of my advanced years...

I almost let this go by.

LuciferSam is the only one here who has me beat, and not by much.

Which reminds me: He showed up briefly today.

That, and some other things, have made this a good day.

Have great evenings, y'all! I'm off to the pan-Asian market for sake and some other stuff!

dcrog · « **Reply #2290 on:** May 15, 2007, 07:14:54 PM »

Quote from: ivan on May 15, 2007, 07:08:53 PM

LuciferSam is the only one here who has me beat, and not by much.

I thought you were born the year of Sputnik. Youngster.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #2291 on:** May 15, 2007, 07:17:11 PM »

Relandr is also in that age range I believe.

Vespertine · « **Reply #2292 on:** May 15, 2007, 08:13:41 PM »

Quote from: ivan on May 15, 2007, 07:08:53 PM

<snip>

Have great evenings, y'all! I'm off to the pan-Asian market for sake and some other stuff!

Make sure to stay away from the aspirin!

ivan · « **Reply #2293 on:** May 16, 2007, 11:27:01 AM »

Quote from: dcrog on May 15, 2007, 07:14:54 PM

I thought you were born the year of Sputnik. Youngster.

Good Lord, I had completely forgotten! Or rather, began thinking of you as a year behind rather than ahead of me.

So ok, I'm third in line now.

ivan · « **Reply #2294 on:** May 16, 2007, 11:30:24 AM »

Quote from: Vespertine on May 15, 2007, 08:13:41 PM

Make sure to stay away from the aspirin!

Yes, I am a changed man ever since I stopped taking aspirin and started shooting homeless people.

Agent_Tachyon · « **Reply #2295 on:** May 16, 2007, 12:08:28 PM »

Better watch out Ivan, that makes you a criminal and therefore in line for termination yourself, possibly through long and drawn-out torture (be sure to get your badge BEFORE you start shooting)!

Evonus · « **Reply #2296 on:** May 16, 2007, 02:14:07 PM »

Quote from: ivan on May 16, 2007, 11:30:24 AM

Yes, I am a changed man ever since I stopped taking aspirin and started shooting homeless people.

I'm laughing my ass off, because you're making fun of me for something you're wrong about. This is like telling a retard the world is round and having him make fun of you for it. XD Classic!

Vespertine · « **Reply #2297 on:** May 16, 2007, 02:48:12 PM »

Awesome headline on cnn.com: Pink Lightning Bolt Misses Kids by 10 Feet

I was all like, "Holy shit! When did the gays get lightining?"

ivan · « **Reply #2298 on:** May 16, 2007, 02:49:51 PM »

What do you think killed Falwell?

Evonus · « **Reply #2299 on:** May 16, 2007, 03:01:46 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceNf-11-ddI

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