Topic: Texas just beat Arizona, bar none! (Read 5833 times)

Vespertine · « **on:** June 22, 2010, 09:06:53 PM »

We've had some epic fuckery going on here in the Arizona state legislature for quite some time now (in my opinion). Looks like Texas just put our asshattery to shame. Granted, this isn't the Texas state legislature, but it is the new official platform of the Texas Republican party.

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0621/tx-gop-platform-jail-mexicans-criminalize-sodomy-gay-marriage-felony/

Clear_Runway · « **Reply #1 on:** June 22, 2010, 11:34:53 PM »

holy crap. and here I thought this was the twenty-first century.

12AX7 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 22, 2010, 11:40:14 PM »

Wow. I didnt think the Arizona Immigration Law was bad; but this is just waaay 'tarded. I just lost a lotta respect for Texas. How is this even close to being constitutional?

Vespertine · « **Reply #3 on:** June 22, 2010, 11:53:32 PM »

At this point there's nothing in place to be judged as either constitutional or unconstitutional. It's the Texas Republican Party's platform and they're free to bluster about whatever they want. Now, should they move forward with enacting laws...they'll get slapped down.

For the moment it's nothing more than morally repugnant grandstanding.

Clear_Runway · « **Reply #4 on:** June 22, 2010, 11:57:06 PM »

apparently there is no middle ground between "enforcing the law" and "leaving people the fuck alone in their own houses" i mean seriously, who would vote for this?

Wunderkind · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2010, 06:24:18 AM »

Quote from: Clear_Runway on June 22, 2010, 11:57:06 PM

... who would vote for this?

They're out there. They're probably closet gays themselves. But they're out there.

Demosthenes · « **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2010, 08:46:07 AM »

+1 for "epic fuckery". That's about the only term that adequately describes that attitude.

My general rule of thumb when it comes to gay rights is to assess any position by replacing the word "gay" or "homosexual" or "same sex" with any other minority and see how it sounds with today's sensibilities.

For example (from the linked Texas GOP platform from the article):

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No parent/grandparent should be denied court ordered visitation, because of jurisdictional disputes between states. We also believe that no homosexual or any individual convicted of child abuse or molestation should have the right to custody or adoption of a minor child, and that visitation with minor children by such persons should be prohibited but if ordered by the court limited to supervised periods.

Becomes:

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No parent/grandparent should be denied court ordered visitation, because of jurisdictional disputes between states. We also believe that no black or any individual convicted of child abuse or molestation should have the right to custody or adoption of a minor child, and that visitation with minor children by such persons should be prohibited but if ordered by the court limited to supervised periods.

If it sounds repugnant, then it still should when it's talking about homosexuals.

Here's another example from the same platform:

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The law should assure mothers of a choice in selecting a traditional home for their children at the time of terminating their rights for adoption. We oppose mandatory open adoption and adoption by homosexuals.

Becomes:

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The law should assure mothers of a choice in selecting a traditional home for their children at the time of terminating their rights for adoption. We oppose mandatory open adoption and adoption by Jews.

This one too:

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We are opposed to any granting of special legal entitlements, refuse to recognize, or grant special privileges including, but not limited to: marriage between persons of the same sex (regardless of state of origin)

Becomes:

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We are opposed to any granting of special legal entitlements, refuse to recognize, or grant special privileges including, but not limited to: marriage between persons of a different race (regardless of state of origin)

xolik · « **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2010, 09:53:08 AM »

Texas is the King Troll State.

Oh, wait, they're serious.

I, for one, encourage the Texas GOP to aggressively stick by their platform as defined in the article. Show those damn Godless heathens and sodomites that you won't tolerate any of that kind of debauchery in your fair state.

And remain, forevermore, a permanent fringe minority party that will never hold any serious elected positions of power in this country ever again.

Yes, stick to your ridiculous platform and meanwhile the rest of country will sleep a little better at night knowing that you nutjobs will never hold power again.

Novice · « **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2010, 03:59:21 PM »

Geez, can't we let them secede already?

Joe Sixpack · « **Reply #9 on:** June 25, 2010, 01:14:13 PM »

I was already embarrassed when we put the gay marriage ban in the constitution so you'll get no arguments from me.
I think I have stated before that I would be all for secession, except for the reality that cranks like this would then have actual power.

12AX7 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 26, 2010, 10:51:29 AM »

Quote from: Joe Sixpack on June 25, 2010, 01:14:13 PM

I was already embarrassed when we put the gay marriage ban in the constitution

Not just gay marriage...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3I6iRikL2w#noexternalembed

Joe Sixpack · « **Reply #11 on:** June 28, 2010, 11:45:40 AM »

Recognition of marriage shouldn't be a funciton of the government anyway!

xolik · « **Reply #12 on:** June 28, 2010, 01:12:12 PM »

Quote from: Joe Sixpack on June 28, 2010, 11:45:40 AM

Recognition of marriage shouldn't be a funciton of the government anyway!

THIS

pbsaurus · « **Reply #13 on:** June 28, 2010, 01:13:42 PM »

concur

ivan · « **Reply #14 on:** June 28, 2010, 03:28:31 PM »

Quote from: Joe Sixpack on June 28, 2010, 11:45:40 AM

Recognition of marriage shouldn't be a funciton of the government anyway!

Sure. That's why libertarians tend to stay out of these debates. Some argue that voting for official recognition of same sex marriage only further promotes the government's involvement in marriage. But one ought to weigh this principle against more important principles of social equality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXTT6vI6NE#noexternalembed

Clear_Runway · « **Reply #15 on:** June 28, 2010, 03:37:48 PM »

so the tax breaks shouldn't apply to anyone?

ivan · « **Reply #16 on:** June 28, 2010, 03:46:35 PM »

Quote from: Clear_Runway on June 28, 2010, 03:37:48 PM

so the tax breaks shouldn't apply to anyone?

There should be no tax breaks, because there should be no taxes.

Novice · « **Reply #17 on:** June 28, 2010, 03:47:45 PM »

+1 common law marriage.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #18 on:** June 28, 2010, 04:14:52 PM »

Quote from: Clear_Runway on June 28, 2010, 03:37:48 PM

so the tax breaks shouldn't apply to anyone?

Ever hear of the marriage penalty. Two income married couples actually pay more in taxes than if they filed separately.

Vespertine · « **Reply #19 on:** June 28, 2010, 06:04:41 PM »

Quote from: Clear_Runway on June 28, 2010, 03:37:48 PM

so the tax breaks shouldn't apply to anyone?

Correct. Neither should the tax penalties.

Either that, or they should both apply to everyone.

Are you aware that simply getting married entitles you to something like 900 some odd governmental (or pseudo governmental) benefits/rights/etc.? I'll try to dig up the exact number (and it may be specific to Arizona...other states may differ), but I remember reading that little factoid a couple years ago banning gay marriage went on the ballot here in Arizona.

Aeam · « **Reply #20 on:** March 07, 2011, 09:05:13 PM »

That is seriously F&cked up. And I live in Texas. Good thing I'm moving.

MISTER MASSACRE · « **Reply #21 on:** March 08, 2011, 10:18:57 AM »

We can say "fuck" here. As in, why the fuck did you bump this super-old topic?

Min · « **Reply #22 on:** March 09, 2011, 10:17:10 PM »

Holy Sh*t, you're right!

MISTER MASSACRE · « **Reply #23 on:** March 10, 2011, 09:47:39 AM »

We can say "shut" in here. As in, shut, I don't know many swear words.

pbsaurus · « **Reply #24 on:** March 10, 2011, 02:12:18 PM »

Shot, we can even say ferret-felching, owl-fucking, bison-blumperer.

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