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Main Forums => Political Opinions => Topic started by: Skananabittles on December 10, 2008, 07:38:17 PM
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So?
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Just stating a fact and trying to see if anyone will get offended over nothing.
So....you're trolling?
Also, what's your proof?
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Are you planning on actually answering the question when you're done being a wiseass?
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I would like to be a wise-ass.
..."Jesus isn't in the hands of historians,"...
So...
Does he qualify as a fairy or a unicorn? Perhaps some prototype of the wingless sprite?
Oh, and that whole article gave me a nose-bleed. Give me a bit to clean up the mess and I'll post my favourite excerpts.
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"It's very important because (the film) is going to provide an image of Jesus for African-Americans that is no longer under the control of whites," says Stephenson Humphries-Brooks,
Yes, because it has long been the plan of the wasp to beat down the black man with a white Jesus.
"Black people in this country are the only race of people who worship a god outside their own image," says LaMarre
What the hell...
Because all black people in this country are Christians.
adding that showing Christ as a black man is "the most poignant way to deal with the issue of race in this country because it goes to the heart of how we look at the world."
So, she thinks the whole world is a black man and I think the whole world is a religious figure who was blown way out of proportion. Sweet.
Film is a powerful place to have the discussion, says Humphries-Brooks, who calls the medium "one of the last places that is quasi-public for the formation of values in America."
Because we all know black people don't read.
Then, there's this crowning glory:
"What we have now is our own debate and, in that debate, race has to be a factor because race is a big predicament in American life."
"The message is that colour, a coloured Jesus Christ, doesn't matter," he says. "That's why the movie is important.
So, which is it? Either it's a big deal or it doesn't matter.
Yes, ma'am, I'd like one contradiction with a side of fries and biggie size that please.
My own opinions fall somewhere along these lines:
"He's of Mediterranean stock, and it's quite clear what that means. We see people like that in the world today, and that should end the matter." The fact that the debate rages on regardless is fascinating, he says, because of what it says about people's other issues.
Taken from this article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3958241.stm).
The fact is that Jesus was Hebrew and from the Middle East. Today, we'd probably have him up our terrorist watch list, especially with all the trouble he'd be causing in Israel.
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bahahaa!!!
from your article
As light-hearted evidence that Jesus was black, it adds that he "called everybody 'brother', liked Gospel, and couldn't get a fair trial".
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he was not black. Or white. He was like this fudge-tan cappucino caramel colour. Making him the best of boths worlds.
Becuse he lied, but could do magic, he got to see the best of both worlds. And he is responsible for planting donosaur bones.
He was like a desert ninja. I dont know any black ninjas though.
So he's dead, and thats gonna make it hard for you guys to get to the end of that one.
I am the new DigiJesus.
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I am the new DigiJesus.
Jose Dejesus?
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Sorry - quickly off topic, but do you dudes know the singer RODRIGUEZ (aka Sugarman) ????
I think his real name is Jesus Rodriguez from LA ???
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I believe he's running with the Never Herd.
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Please help me understand this - can you check sugarman.org and tell me if you heard of him.
Interesting story - he apparently never made it big in the states, but his disks flew (and still do) in South Africa and Australia.
Apparently he didnt even know that he was famous here till 20 years after the release!!
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Quite frankly, if you believe Jesus is who he said he was, but feel like you need to open a debate about his skin color...... you're missing the point.
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Skin colour denotes ethnicity. Ethnicity denotes custom and tradition.
I think that cross-culture religion is sad. People....ag, actuallt I dont even feel like going there...somebody give us a wow!
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Skin colour denotes ethnicity. Ethnicity denotes custom and tradition.
His customs and traditions are well established; He was Jewish.
Unless you're referring to modern Christian customs and traditions... in which case I repeat, if his skin color affects that, then somebody's missed the point.
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He can almost be viewed as borderline progressive. His teachings and aphorisms were pulled from far and wide, with heavy Egyptian influence is some cases. Perhaps the start of new-age thinking - loosely speaking.
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Sorry - NUBIAN - so yeah, not really white...
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Sorry - NUBIAN - so yeah, not really white...
So a white person couldn't speak from a nubian-influenced viewpoint? ;)
Race doesn't factor into it. You can try and make it important, sure, but when it boils down to it... it doesn't alter anything he said or did. Nor can it reliably be inferred from the records we have, unless you want to go with the safe "Jewish" bet.
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True.
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Are we talking historic Jesus, or mythical Jesus? Because mythical Jesus is whatever you want him to be.
Historical Jesus, on the other hand, is bound by ordinary laws of physics, genetics, and geopolitics. If you can establish the presense of a negroid population in and around Nazareth circa 50 to 0 BC, then you might have a case. But even then, unless all the local folk were astoundingly color-blind in those days, one could rightly expect a black Jesus' countenance to merit some note in the earliest accounts of his carreer.
But you may believe what you want to believe. Believing that Jesus somehow miraculously possessed a gene that produced more melanin than is typical in semitic populations is no more preposterous than the rest of the story.
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So a fudge caramel mochachino colour is acceptable?
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If you're eating him, yeh.
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By the way, if anyone is actually remotely seriously interested in the subject of the historic Jesus, here is a good place to start: Jesus: A Life (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0449908070), by A.N. Wilson.
For those that don't know me, I am a hard atheist, so Wilson's book passed a tough test.
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For those that don't know me, I am a hard atheist
As opposed to a flaccid atheist?
Jokes aside, and out of curiosity; how would you describe the distinction?
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Same as the common term "strong atheism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_atheism)". People intuitively understand what "hard" implies, so I use it in mixed company.
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Same as the common term "strong atheism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_atheism)". People intuitively understand what "hard" implies, so I use it in mixed company.
Ah, hmm. Seems I've always marked that in my mind as being agnosticism vs. atheism, rather than weak vs. strong atheism. The wikipedia article doesn't do much to disambiguate that. But I get the picture.
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Muhammad was Asian.
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....wait - should I split that off to another thread?
:lol:
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Muhammad was Asian.
Englishpeople call everyone east of Dover "asian".
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So was Muhammed also a cofee caramel frappe colour.
Or was he white?
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Are we talking the hitorical Muhammed, or the mythical Muhammed? Because the mythical Muhuammad can be any... oh, fuck it.
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Hehehe. I think he was a sort of day-old-mayonaise yellow. Mythically speaking.
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Historically speaking, I could say he was blue. Supposedly they aren't to view his image, amirite?
So who says I wouldn't be correct in my Blue Muhammad?
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huh.
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Historically speaking, I could say he was blue. Supposedly they aren't to view his image, amirite?
So who says I wouldn't be correct in my Blue Muhammad?
That raises an interesting wrinkle.
Does that mean they can't look at *any* image of a man, for fear that it may happen to look like Muhammed?
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To say that (that a man looks like Muhammad) would probably get you killed.
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Is that allowed? :cry:
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Nah, he's way revered. Swy they freaked about the Dutch cartoons. Touchy, touchy.
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So was Muhammed also a cofee caramel frappe colour.
Or was he white?
Muhammed had a face full of fire all the time so I'll say 'red, orange, and all burny'
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Muhammed had a face full of fire all the time so I'll say 'red, orange, and all burny'
Was he cross about something?
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Muhammed had a face full of fire all the time so I'll say 'red, orange, and all burny'
Was he cross about something?
That would have been so much funnier if you were still talkin' 'bout the Cheeezus.
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So has anyone done a search on jesus+muhammed+gautama+zoroaster+porn?
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Jesus taking triple anal from the others would be a miracle indeed.
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Holy fuckin' Trinity Batman.
That would explains the 'all three-in-one' concept I've heard so much about but could not visualize until now.
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If Jesus were black, he would be packing some serious shlong ammo...ouch for the Virgin Mary...
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If Jesus were black, he would be packing some serious shlong ammo...ouch for the Virgin Mary...
So Jesus had sex with his own mother now?
If that's the case, before posting again, please watch this:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting
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So Jesus had sex with his own mother now?
If you follow the concept of the Triune Deity then, yes, this is the case. If you believe that God=Father, Son and Holy Spirt, and that 1+1+1=1, and if the Holy Spirit is what made Mary conceive Jesus, and since Jesus=Holy Spirit=Father, then yes, what you stated would be true.
It's pretty simple, really.
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Sorry folks, but the virgin birth doctrine holds that Jesus was conceived in Mary's virginal womb by the Holy Spirit without intercourse and without male seed. So you can't has Holy Threesome. Not yours.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
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If you stop and think about it, Joseph musta been either a total pussy, bi, or just really not bright. His wife gets pregnant, it isn't his, she says she didnt do it with anyone else, and he's all cool with that. W7F?
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Well, not by all accounts. (http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~humm/Topics/JewishJesus/celsus.html)
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Pics or it didn't happen.
Yeah, but I saw it on the internet. AND IT WAS IN BOLD
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And I know that I'm right
Because I bold posted it in the
Ni-i-i-ight
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Fuckn 'ell. So he was a bastard orphan, that ran off and joined a circus, lived like a gypsy, made people drunk with all his crafty wine magic, and committed suicide. What a fukn rock star.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ_Superstar
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Less than three JCS.
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Jesus Christ Superstore (http://jesuschristsuperstore.com/)
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Jesus Christ Superstore (http://jesuschristsuperstore.com/)
Weird Tingly Feeling on 22 levels.
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Yeah he probably was, not really a big deal.
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Interesting... I actually remember something sexual supposedly happened between Noah and his son, and when Noah sobered up and realized what happened he cursed his son. That could be what the Mormons are referring to.
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According to the Mormon faith Jesus was not black, because being black is apparently a punishment.
Mark of Cain = Black skin.
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waitwait
MaCain was the black one????
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He toned it down a bit, He used to go by "M.C. Cain" but then anglicised the name under pressure from the party.
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President M to the Cashizzle Cain ya'll, would have been a bit much.
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I actually believe he was Caucasian/maybe some Egyptian after all if you do your research Moses was taught as a priest in Egypt contrary to all the misinterpretations of things. If you read some history and proper translations from the old testament before king James and everything, and take things in context with what they meant in that time period. You take away all the hellenistic ideas because those supernatural things were meant to mean other things. If you read some Freemason literature, as well as the true things known of the templars and the beginning of civilization, you will know that Abraham left Sumeria with the hyskus movement a.k.a. Desert Princes and went to Egypt. So i don't get too off topic to sum it up i dont believe Jesus was black, but maybe a mixture from the Mesopotamia area and Egypt or even the Qumran's. Interesting stuff to research into if you ever want to learn truth and be analytical you should check out the book The Hiram Key. Its kind of like a history book, as long as you dont mind learning about mason rituals and where they came from. Anyways i'm done rambling too much coffee.
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I thought Jesus was Mexican.
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I actually believe he was Caucasian/maybe some Egyptian after all if you do your research Moses was taught as a priest in Egypt contrary to all the misinterpretations of things. If you read some history and proper translations from the old testament before king James and everything, and take things in context with what they meant in that time period. You take away all the hellenistic ideas because those supernatural things were meant to mean other things. If you read some Freemason literature, as well as the true things known of the templars and the beginning of civilization, you will know that Abraham left Sumeria with the hyskus movement a.k.a. Desert Princes and went to Egypt. So i don't get too off topic to sum it up i dont believe Jesus was black, but maybe a mixture from the Mesopotamia area and Egypt or even the Qumran's. Interesting stuff to research into if you ever want to learn truth and be analytical you should check out the book The Hiram Key. Its kind of like a history book, as long as you dont mind learning about mason rituals and where they came from. Anyways i'm done rambling too much coffee.
lolwut
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Jesus was a Wookiee.
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That would be Lando.
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I thought Judas was a horta.
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:O Lando makes sense!!! Especially because he's black! Like Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar... Hey ya guys... Was Judas black too?
That's only the film version, darling. The definitive Judas was sung by Murray Head (http://www.murrayhead.org/Default.asp) opposite Ian Gillan's Jesus on the original album (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ_Superstar). Remember, JCS originally came out as an album, and was produced on stage and film later. Not to put down Carl Anderson or Ted Neeley or anything, but the soundtrack of the American film version is just not as good.
Look for the brown cover with superimposed facing angels. Accept no substitutions.
I was out of country in 1970 when the craze was sweeping the world. The buzz hadn't yet reached behind the Iron Curtain (at least not among my peers), but my family vacationed in Finland that summer, and Helsinki was plastered with JCS posters. It was a groovy time, man.
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They have a new stage version. I think it's coming to the Flint Center.
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Last year, Ian Gillan reprised the role of Jesus at an invitation-only performance in LA. My invitation must've gotten lost in the mail.
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My invitation must've gotten lost in the mail.
"Like, I mailed it, man, so ya know, I don't know, man, like it's in the mail, man, is all I can say, man."