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Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 25, 2004, 03:14:42 PM
Hello I have a question for all you uber-g33ks I recently installed "The ultimate DOOM" (ahh childhood memories) on the larger of my two hard drive (my non-boot HD)  and thought i would make a shortcut to my Desktop so I drag "DOOM.exe" to my destop and it make a whole new DOOM.exe not a shortcut. so I go to delete it " In use by another application", well Only windowsXP is running and XP doesn't rely on a 5 year old outated graphics shooter as we all know. So I go to add remove programs and DOOM is not on there. So I put the DOOM directory that came off the CD into the recycle bin . (it had a DOOM.exe in it) and it goes fine. So I figure well I'll just put the Desktop one in a folder then delete the folder. IT MAKES A NEW DOOM.EXE IN THE FOLDER GAHHH. so (note the on in the folder also gives me the "In use by another program" message) So what can I do I need uber-geek help!
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: hackess on February 25, 2004, 03:29:28 PM
In the folder you installed DOOM in on your data drive, there should be an uninstall file. Run it. Get rid of the offending icon. Reinstall and when you want to put a shortcut on your desktop, right click on the DOOM.exe file and choose Send to Desktop (create shortcut).

If there isn't an uninstall file, and because it's not in your add/remove program files list, it makes me wonder if 1) you installed it in the first place, or 2) you've got a cracked/corrupt version of DOOM.

Even old DOS-based games should cooperate on some level in WinXP.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: xolik on February 25, 2004, 03:52:26 PM
Never mind. Beaten like a redheaded stepchild.

Hey, that reminds me. Have you tried JDoom? You'll need the original CD but it gives DOOM a complete overhaul.

http://www.doomsdayhq.com/
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 25, 2004, 09:03:04 PM
To what cat wrote It was a backup copy my dad made when he got a CD burner we lost the main disk but the backup has all teh files that were on the original CD. If there namely I just took the setup.exe off the backup and ran it and took the files that it installed. Hmmm My friend has a copy of the game meebee I can borrow it.
Title: Re: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2004, 09:04:06 AM
Quote from: Scuzzy
Hello I have a question for all you uber-g33ks I recently installed "The ultimate DOOM" (ahh childhood memories) on the larger of my two hard drive (my non-boot HD)  and thought i would make a shortcut to my Desktop so I drag "DOOM.exe" to my destop and it make a whole new DOOM.exe not a shortcut. so I go to delete it " In use by another application", well Only windowsXP is running and XP doesn't rely on a 5 year old outated graphics shooter as we all know. So I go to add remove programs and DOOM is not on there. So I put the DOOM directory that came off the CD into the recycle bin . (it had a DOOM.exe in it) and it goes fine. So I figure well I'll just put the Desktop one in a folder then delete the folder. IT MAKES A NEW DOOM.EXE IN THE FOLDER GAHHH. so (note the on in the folder also gives me the "In use by another program" message) So what can I do I need uber-geek help!


Watch and learn:

Hello, I attempted to make a shortcut of the doom.exe file to my desktop by dragging it there.

Actually... You lost me from that point.

I don't see how copying a single exe file to a location would create a new folder. That makes no sense. Like your post.


Click here (http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=%22The+ultimate+doom%22+doom.exe&btnG=Google+Search&meta=). At least one of these sites has the file you are looking for. Good luck.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 26, 2004, 10:51:25 AM
Okay Apparently I really didn't make any sense. I'll make this aaas simple as possible

1st: I take the backup (burned) copy of my The ultimate doom and place the setup file from it on my Computer.
2nd: I run the setup and install doom to my 2nd HD
3: I attempt to make a shortcut to my Desktop by dragging DOOM.exe from it's folder to the desktop.
4. When I placed DOOM.exe on my Desktop it makes a NEW doom.exe on my desktop (not a shortcut, not a working doom.exe)
5. No doom is on my add/remove programs List so I drag the doom folder
to the recycle bin...It deletes fine.
6. Now my problem is I can't delete the DOOM.exe on my desktop and I quote "Cannot delete DOOM.exe: acess is denied it is in use by another program".  How can I get rid of the desktop DOOM.exe.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: hackess on February 26, 2004, 11:24:04 AM
Quote from: Scuzzy
Okay Apparently I really didn't make any sense. I'll make this aaas simple as possible

1st: I take the backup (burned) copy of my The ultimate doom and place the setup file from it on my Computer.
2nd: I run the setup and install doom to my 2nd HD
3: I attempt to make a shortcut to my Desktop by dragging DOOM.exe from it's folder to the desktop.
4. When I placed DOOM.exe on my Desktop it makes a NEW doom.exe on my desktop (not a shortcut, not a working doom.exe)
5. No doom is on my add/remove programs List so I drag the doom folder
to the recycle bin...It deletes fine.
6. Now my problem is I can't delete the DOOM.exe on my desktop and I quote "Cannot delete DOOM.exe: acess is denied it is in use by another program".  How can I get rid of the desktop DOOM.exe.


Couple questions for you:

1) Why didn't you just run the setup from the CD?
2) Have you tried playing the game yet? If it doesn't work, something's wrong with your install file.
C) Notice anything?
4) Take the CD out of your drive and try to delete DOOM.exe. Just a hunch.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2004, 11:55:08 AM
Ah, that's a little more clear.

Try what Cat said. If you still can't, use task manager and look under the process tab. If you see doom.exe running, selected it and click "end process".

Try deleting now.
Title: here
Post by: casarath on February 26, 2004, 12:15:19 PM
scuzzy was u have to do is take the CD out and delete. Then put it back in and us the file SETUP.EXE in the same folder it will ask you where u want to install and it will be in a MS-DOS format. If u have any problems ill let u borrow the Original CD. BUT u need to ask me!

[g33ks UNITED] g33ks are teh best!
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 26, 2004, 01:23:12 PM
Well judge uhh No doom thing is running, to cat 1)dunno why I didn't run from CD 2)Tried it, worked fine 3)didn't notice anything and 4)Yeah I tried without the CD. would casarath's idea work if I borrowed his CD?
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2004, 01:28:01 PM
Try turning your monitor upside down then degauss it. Then, try to delet the file. That should do it.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: hackess on February 26, 2004, 01:40:07 PM
Wait a minute...if the game's running just fine, what's the problem?


Right-click the .exe file to make a shortcut; don't drag it to the desktop.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2004, 02:17:59 PM
He's trying to delete the doom.exe file that is on his desktop. When he does so, it says the file is being used by another application. At least, that's what I was able to decipher.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: hackess on February 26, 2004, 02:21:34 PM
Quote from: TheJudge
He's trying to delete the doom.exe file that is on his desktop. When he does so, it says the file is being used by another application. At least, that's what I was able to decipher.


Yeah, but he's making it sound like it's some huge problem. If the game works, deal with the extra icon. Or, even better, remap it so it does work.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 26, 2004, 03:30:41 PM
Quote from: TheJudge
Try turning your monitor upside down then degauss it. Then, try to delet the file. That should do it.


What would Deguassing it do?

and 1) I want doom completely off my computer and 2) if thats not possible how would I remap it?
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2004, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: Scuzzy

What would Deguassing it do?


Try it. The results will be quite obvious.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: xolik on February 26, 2004, 04:16:14 PM
Quote from: Scuzzy
and 1) I want doom completely off my computer and 2) if thats not possible how would I remap it?


Flatten and reinstall everything. It's your only hope. Doom doesn't come with an un-install option, at least not one that I'm aware of. All I had to do to get it off my system was just to delete the DOOM folder. That's all there is to it.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 26, 2004, 05:09:20 PM
To xol, I have deleted the DOOM folder its the un-deletable on ma desktop that I want out now and all the screen did when I degaussed it it made a bzzt sound and went wierd then went back to normal. What WAS it supposed to do anyways
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: xolik on February 26, 2004, 05:11:07 PM
That was just to make the screen goes "BRRRRZZZT!" and give you a cool color show. CTRL+ALT+DEL and use task manager to find out if DOOM.EXE is being used. If it is, End Task, if not, reboot and go into safe mode. You should be able to delete it just fine in safe mode.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 26, 2004, 05:15:50 PM
oOoOh a new idea I went into safe mode not too long ago but only ma recycle bin wa on ma desktop i'll try again though thx fo the input

ohh okay tried it and made a discovery It said I had files to be written on a CD and yup...the file is DOOM.EXE i tried to get it off the list but can't get it off "it is in use" so just for the books that is on my list of problems.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: xolik on February 26, 2004, 05:29:55 PM
It won't let you remove the file from your to-be-burned list? Then just burn it and then toss the newly made coaster. If you want a good way to play doom, get yourself an old 486. Or try that JDOOM link I gave you one the first page.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Demosthenes on February 26, 2004, 05:33:40 PM
Are you sure you don't just have the MyDoom virus, and are mistaking it for the popular Doom game?


(http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/engrish/ttt_captions/60-80/two-towers-06.jpg)
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 26, 2004, 06:52:51 PM
Ahh Demo you may be right but unlikely seeing as it is burned from an original copy of The ultimate doom, but uhh what is the mydoom virus and WHAT DOES DEGAUSSING DO!!!
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: hackess on February 26, 2004, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Scuzzy
uhh what is the mydoom virus


Please tell me you're joking.
Title: idea
Post by: casarath on February 27, 2004, 08:01:39 AM
maybe shut down MS-DOS because thats what Doom is running on. That might do it. If not maybe try it in Safe Mode again. :?:
Title: Re: idea
Post by: hackess on February 27, 2004, 09:05:23 AM
Quote from: casarath
maybe shut down MS-DOS because thats what Doom is running on. That might do it. If not maybe try it in Safe Mode again. :?:


I feel the need to mention that there is no MS-DOS in Windows XP. It's emulated.  :roll:
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 09:23:54 AM
Wow this entire thread took a question that should be very simple and totally made it complicated for no reason.

What are we talking about here? Is the purpose of this thread to help you remove the icon from your desktop? Is it to make the game work? Are you looking for a copy of the doom.exe file? Is it to define the term degauss? Is it related to hacking? Do you like bananas?
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Demosthenes on February 27, 2004, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: Scuzzy
Ahh Demo you may be right but unlikely seeing as it is burned from an original copy of The ultimate doom, but uhh what is the mydoom virus and WHAT DOES DEGAUSSING DO!!!

It appears that you were the victim of a fairly cruel prank.  I don't think he actually meant for you to degauss your monitor.  I hope for your sake you didn't actually do it.

Degaussing pretty much ruins your monitor and video card by sending a low voltage current attenuation through both, normally for the purpose of clearing residual electrical charges.  However, if one isn't there, it usually sends too much current through the main capacitor of the monitor, shortening its life significantly.

You'll be shopping for a new monitor in probably a month or so.  

And when the monitor finally goes, it'll take the video card with it.  Usually when monitors finally stop working, the video cards burn out because they have no place to send the signal.  The best course of action is to replace the monitor before it actually burns out... that way you don't have to replace your video card too.

I work in IT for a living.  I've seen it a million times.  We just went through about 15 monitors where I work because of crap like that, and we had to replace the video cards in almost every case too.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 09:25:23 AM
bwahahahaha!
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Demosthenes on February 27, 2004, 09:27:37 AM
Judge, that wasn't very nice to tell him to do that.  He couldn't possibly know how damaging that would be... he's just a kid.

Fortunately, I don't think he actually did it, so he's probably okay.

But you should still be ashamed of yourself.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 27, 2004, 10:29:07 AM
:x DAMNIT I did the deguass yesterday so I need to replace my monitor DAMN DAMN
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: hackess on February 27, 2004, 10:33:08 AM
While it was cruel of TheJudge to tell you to do that, common sense should have told you that your monitor had nothing to do with it. I'd never do anything to my computer without some understanding of why it was necessary or relevant.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Demosthenes on February 27, 2004, 10:35:42 AM
Quote from: Scuzzy
:x DAMNIT I did the deguass yesterday so I need to replace my monitor DAMN DAMN

That sucks man.

I feel for you.

Well, I'm sure you can get a new monitor for under $300.  Just make sure you don't buy one with a "degauss" button on it.  It's way too easy to bump something like that on accident and ruin another one.  Seriously... I've done it a couple of times myself.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 10:36:01 AM
Quote from: Scuzzy
:x DAMNIT I did the deguass yesterday so I need to replace my monitor DAMN DAMN


Look on the bright side. When you unplug your monitor, you won't see that icon on your desktop. I guess I did solve your problem after all.  :wink:
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Demosthenes on February 27, 2004, 10:39:01 AM
You're a bastard, Judge.  Did you know that?

I don't know why I bother even trying to help people around here.

What a fucking asshole.

 :roll:
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 01:41:10 PM
OK I'll be nice.

Go to the PC store and ask specifically for a "degausless monitor". If they know PCs, they'll know exactlly what you're talking about. If they look confused and ask questions, don't waist your time with these idiots. Go to another store.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 27, 2004, 02:49:02 PM
I have a couple extra lying around (my dads in the compy business) so meebe I'll just steal one of this...But that was cold judge...very cold

So If I get a new monitor I can save my Video card? That would be nice
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 03:25:51 PM
Oh my God!!!

I'm hurt that you would think I would do anything to harm your hardware intentionally. When you did degauss the monitor, did you turn it upside down first like I told you to?
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 27, 2004, 03:28:06 PM
Does your sarcasam ever sease and no I did not turn it upsidedown. what difference would it make?
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 03:29:35 PM
Oh well then you're fine! It only does stuff if you turn it upside down. That makes a huge difference. Don't worry about it. Everything is cool.






Also, research the term degauss on google just for kicks.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: hackess on February 27, 2004, 03:29:40 PM
Quote from: TheJudge
Oh my God!!!

I'm hurt that you would think I would do anything to harm your hardware intentionally. When you did degauss the monitor, did you turn it upside down first like I told you to?


Man, lay off him already.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 03:31:55 PM
Demo just gave me a good push and I went with the flow. I was about to let him in on the whole joke. That's why I asked that he look up the term.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: xolik on February 27, 2004, 03:41:02 PM
If he did turn it upside down, that reverses the polarity on the shadow mask, thus causing the RGB guns to misfire. The overvoltage alone wouldn't cause the problem, but the reverse polarity is what sends the spike down to the AGP VGA Adapter but your OS should detect it and send an Improper Bus Parity Trap Flag to your IO Subsystem, which acts in conjunction with your AMI static bytes to shut down your system. He should be been A-OK if he defrags his static IPs ASAP.

I'm A+ Certified!  :lol:
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 03:48:58 PM
No no no... This was funny, but the joke is over.

Listen, we were just pulling your leg here. You'll see that happen once in a while in here with all sort of people. Don't worry, nothing we said and nothing you did can harm your computer.

Degaussing:

Occasionally, a color monitor develops a discoloration or color purity problem on part or all of the screen.  Typically, the discoloration follows a
semicircular pattern around one side or corner with several bands of different color distortions, like a rainbow.  Sometimes the discoloration involves the
entire screen, but that is rare.

This rainbow may be caused by an externally induced magnetic field that has permanently magnetized some material in the monitor.  The three CRT
electron beams are guided to their appropriate phosphor dots by a magnetic deflection system.  The beams pass through a shadow mask near the phosphor
surface assuring that the red beam hits the red phosphor, the blue beam hits the blue phosphor, and the green beam hits the green phosphor.  If some nearby
component (frequently it is the shadow mask itself) has become sufficiently magnetized then the beams receive an undesired deflection, and will not land
on the appropriate phosphor, or will land partly on one color and partly on another.  The result is an impure color that arcs around the magnetized
component - a rainbow.

Motion is an important clue to this problem.  If the rainbow moves it is not being caused by a permanent magnetization but by some alternating magnetic
interference in or near the monitor.  If the rainbow does not move then it may be caused by permanent magnetization and degaussing is necessary.  Moving the
monitor to another location will determine if the interference source is internal or external.  Does the rainbow disappear when the monitor is moved?
If so, the magnetic interference is coming from something near the monitor's normal location.  If the rainbow travels with the monitor the problem is in
the monitor and degaussing may be required.

Degaussing removes permanent magnetization by introducing an alternating magnetic field that is stronger than the offending permanent magnetization.
This field will energize the magnetic domains of the material and induce an alternating magnetic field.  Then, if the amplitude of the the alternating
magnetic field is gradually reduced to zero, the material will be demagnetized.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Demosthenes on February 27, 2004, 03:49:35 PM
Quote from: xolik
If he did turn it upside down, that reverses the polarity on the shadow mask, thus causing the RGB guns to misfire. The overvoltage alone wouldn't cause the problem, but the reverse polarity is what sends the spike down to the AGP VGA Adapter but your OS should detect it and send an Improper Bus Parity Trap Flag to your IO Subsystem, which acts in conjunction with your AMI static bytes to shut down your system. He should be been A-OK if he defrags his static IPs ASAP.

I'm A+ Certified!  :lol:


 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Whoa, dude!  YOU know your stuff!




BTW, scuzzy... NEVER trust anyone with the word "evil" in their status title.  Just a good general rule of thumb.  ;)
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 03:55:17 PM
Also, if it says "genius" in their status title, don't beleive it.  :lol:
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Demosthenes on February 27, 2004, 03:57:53 PM
Or "Pure", for that matter.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 03:59:04 PM
OMG! I'm calling you a peg from now on.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Demosthenes on February 27, 2004, 04:11:39 PM
"P.E.G."


Lol.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 27, 2004, 04:34:49 PM
Right ahhh well as long I don't hafta buy anything i'm cool with it.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2004, 09:13:15 PM
You didn't do anything wrong. No one here has a reason to screw you over.
Title: United geeks assemble to help a lesser geek
Post by: Scuzzy on February 28, 2004, 09:03:37 AM
M'kay It's offa my desktop. We had to do something with moving around files to different HD's I didn't quite understand it. Now there's only the one waiting to be burned to a CD we don't know how to get rid of that one. But if I turn off CD burning It doesn't say i'm waiting to burn it soo it's fine.

And if that made no sense

1. Desktop DOOM.EXE gone

2. Need to lose the one waiting to be burned.