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Title: CSS, tables, graphics
Post by: copperrein on June 17, 2003, 08:34:29 AM
Ok, I HATE frames. I try to avoid using them at all times.

What I want to do is this:

I have seen a few sites out there that are stunning. www.giger.com is one of those sites. I want to have the cool 'image as a menu border' look. Any ideas on how this is done? Style sheets, tables, or *gasp* frames?

mongo confoozed....ugh!
Title: CSS, tables, graphics
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2003, 09:16:44 AM
Well go on that site, or any site, and in IE click view-> source

You'll see how it's done. In this case, they used frames.
Title: ummmm
Post by: copperrein on June 17, 2003, 09:21:24 AM
I looked at the sorce....but...but...but...*sigh*
need more help...*sniffle*
Title: CSS, tables, graphics
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2003, 09:25:13 AM
lol. OK well maybe you should learn some HTML first. And the best way to learn is to code it from scratch using notepad.

here's a site for starters -> Clicky (http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp)

Try here (http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Internet/WWW/HTMLPrimerAll.html) too.
Title: hrmmm
Post by: copperrein on June 17, 2003, 09:26:52 AM
I know HTML....what I want to know is how do I create the image for the frame and have it work properly? What are the limitations? The source doesn't tell me that.
Title: CSS, tables, graphics
Post by: snyperx on June 17, 2003, 09:27:18 AM
I found that the easiest way to learn HTML was to copy all of the source for some random page, paste it into notepad, and then mess with it and learn what everything does.  It's only illegal to do if you publish it, I think.
Title: *twitch*
Post by: copperrein on June 17, 2003, 09:29:33 AM
it's not the html that's screwing me up....*twitch* too much coffee....


it's the image.
Title: CSS, tables, graphics
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2003, 09:37:30 AM
OH! OK...

This is a different issue. First of all, you have 3 frames. One across the top (reffered to as top from now on), one on the left side (reffered to as side) and one in the middle (reffered to as middle. Duh!).

so let's look at what they did:

Top: here's the URL http://www.giger.com/top.htm

And the image used (in this case, a flash file)
http://www.giger.com/Flash/giger_top_.swf

But basically, when you create your top frame, you specify the size of it in pixel. Then you can create an image that size. Or you can create an oversized image that will shrink based on visitor's resolutions. That can get tricky.

The left side url: http://www.giger.com/left.htm
That aslo uses a flash file: http://www.giger.com/Flash/giger_menu1_.swf

You could end up with the same result using images.

Anyway, look at both those frames and view source on each for mor detail. It'a sll there.
Title: trial and error
Post by: copperrein on June 17, 2003, 09:47:16 AM
ooookey...I think

Now I shall try this. I still have questions, but now I may be able to figure them out on my own....except for the resizing thing...that's what I really need to learn.

Judge...you're mind is sexy
Title: CSS, tables, graphics
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2003, 09:49:44 AM
Not just my mind sweety!

May I recommend that you download the vealuation copy of paint shop pro. You can use it for like 60 days. It's fairly easy to use. And you can find a bunch of tutorials on-line. You biggest challenge will be to create these images. and you need a good editor. And you need to know a lot of the typical tools.
Title: gimp
Post by: copperrein on June 17, 2003, 09:54:15 AM
Ohhhh...the art thing isn't the problem. I'm a 3-year Gimp user. Gimp is more than enough to do this.

Thankyou sexy dead guy
Title: Re: gimp
Post by: Dark Shade on June 17, 2003, 07:31:29 PM
Quote from: copperrein
Ohhhh...the art thing isn't the problem. I'm a 3-year Gimp user. Gimp is more than enough to do this.

Thankyou sexy dead guy


"Sexy Dead Guy"? Since when is Judge "dead"?

Judge...is there something you've failed to mention to us? Are you a reanimated corpse? A zombie? "Night Of The Living Dead" and all that rot.

Huh? HUH? Tell us!  :P
Title: CSS, tables, graphics
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2003, 06:36:03 AM
Didn't you see my sig? Looks pretty dead to me.