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« on: May 11, 2004, 04:00:01 PM »

Alright, so I'm feeling the need to update this system. I'm currently dual-booting Windows 2000/Redhat 9.0. I use W2k almost exclusively, since I've had several configuration issues with Redhat, and don't have the time to debug. The issues I've had are: inability to configure and use a second video card, for dual monitor support. Inability to hear sound, except for a short window of time which I cannot explain and can't reproduce. Both of these are considered critical issues for me, since I depend on having two monitors, and being able to hear things is essential for any computer.

So I'm faced with a quandary, given the end-of-life for Redhat 9.0- I obviously must choose another distribution to dual boot with, and I have to try to find one with enough native support to be able to work my various widgets. Which leads me to ask those of you who actively use Linux, or just have a store of information to draw upon- which one? Any and all advice is welcome, here...
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2004, 04:11:47 PM »

My vote is for Slackware, but it's conditional... currently the default kernel in Slackware 9.1 is the 2.4.22 kernel.

Don't get me wrong here now... there's nothing wrong with the 2.4.22 kernel.  It's stable, and it supports a very wide array of hardware and services.

However, I found it lacking on a few things (like wireless support, and ACPI, and a few other things), so I upgraded my laptop's Slackware installation to the 2.6.5 kernel.

And am running into a lot of problems.  Part of the problem is the fact that this is the first time I've ever messed with switching kernels on a Linux machine.

Well, I got through that (after recompiling like four or five times :P).  But the other part of the problem is the fact that I'm a real newbie when it comes to dealing with Linux and how it interfaces with hardware.

I can't get my USB ports to work correctly, and I'm having sound problems (which 2.6.5 is supposed to fix, but since I don't know what I'm doing, I'm having a hard time getting things working correctly).

Ultimately though, my 2.6.5 problems stem from my own lack of knowledge rather than from the kernel itself.  Dr. Torvalds has his signoff on it, so as far as I'm concerned, that's good enough for me!

So, in short, my advice to you for distros is Slackware.

But wait for Slackware 9.2.  It will have the newest kernel and save you some trouble, believe me.

Slack is the most Unix-like of Linux distros, and is one of the oldest.  In my opinion, it's the easiest to work with... it uses something far superior to the RPM system to manage dependencies and application installations -- but it can use RPMs to build its packages, so software availability is no different.  If you can find an RPM for it, you can install it on Slackware.  Plus it seems to be the fastest distro I've tried (I've run Red Hat 7.2 and Mandrake 9.1 also) and by far the most stable.

Among most Linux heads I've dealt with online (particularly at real knowledge bases like Linux Questions), the phrase of the decade is "Once you go Slack, you never go back".

Installation is easy.  Configuration is painless, maintenance is simple.  Documentation is plentiful.  Life is good.  8)

Out of the box the next version of Slackware with a newer kernel will be able to handle your sound and video without a problem, as long as you're not using something really weird, obscure, and proprietary -- and even then you'd be surprised at how well things can work out of the box.

On my Toshiba Satellite, my initial installation of Slackware worked perfectly with no tweaking... video, sound, network, you name it.  The only thing that didn't work was my wireless card, and that's why I was attempting to upgrade my kernel (and made a bloody mess of).

That's more than I can say for Windows 2000, which required hand holding to identify my modem, network card, video card, sound card, you name it, Windows had a problem with it.  

Slack pretty much worked right away, with no special drivers, no tricky configuration tweaking, nothing.

That's also better than any other distro I've tried on other machines.  Needless to say, I'm a big fan of Slackware.  I probably should have been using it to begin with instead of wasting my time with Red Hat and Mandrake.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2004, 06:13:33 PM »

Comedy "Go with Windows XP since Demo loves it so much he wrote two threads about it." option.
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2004, 08:42:29 PM »

Well, that answers my question quite nicely, Demo. The only thing I'm really worried about now is whether or not I'll be able to get my wireless remote to work with it- but I'll plug around and see if there's anything I can use. It's been out long enough for someone to have come up with a way of doing it.
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2004, 09:19:46 AM »

Quote from: xolik
Comedy "Go with Windows XP since Demo loves it so much he wrote two threads about it." option.


Actually, when I posted that to the main page, it created another thread, so that was not totally intentional.  :lol:
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2004, 04:28:49 PM »

One more question, so I don't go off half-cocked and fuck something up- Can I install Slackware over my Redhat install, or do I need to flatten that partition and reinstall completely? Do I need to worry about reinstalling Windows, too?
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2004, 09:09:30 AM »

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One more question, so I don't go off half-cocked and fuck something up- Can I install Slackware over my Redhat install, or do I need to flatten that partition and reinstall completely? Do I need to worry about reinstalling Windows, too?

I would recommend a flatten and reinstall if you're going to go with Slack.  I'm not totally sure how things would work if you went right over the top with it.

And Windows should be fine... on one of my machines, I did four or five Linux installs without ever affecting Windows.
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